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Forbes interview – Mack

Mack

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Christian Capitalism - Spiritually Profitable Gaming

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ArchAngel

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yeah, that's a good article. You got that little piece at the end. Kudos! (dude.. I never say that word... I was just thinking of the snack bar at the time, so, yeah)

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silicon_chippy

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You been playing Project Gotham?

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silicon_chippy

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PS-Great news story. In ten years time I honestly believe that Christian games will be on the shelves next to other games without any vision. The day of reckoning may be near, and we will be asked"what did we do?". Are we going to say "nothing" or are we going to say WE were the trailblazers that opened the door to Christian games. There are children as young as two years of age playing on the Playstation, we need to provide wholesome games for them to enjoy. Kids can no longer be brought up thinking that GTA or Doom are O.K. They need games that are fun to play and nourish their spirituality.

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AmazingJas

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here here Chippy!
Mack

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quote:
Originally posted by Silicon_Chippy:
In ten years time I honestly believe that Christian games will be on the shelves next to other games without any vision.

Ten years is too long, dream bigger, think smaller, work longer, pray harder. The goal isn't to be 'on the shelves' but it should be to 'completly own the shelves', all genres, all ages, all media.

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BluePaladin

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I think the deal that the MSNBC article missed and this article missed is the need. I know they will always miss it because they never write these from the Christian perspective. No one thought that Christian music would do so well when it took steps past hymns and standard contemporary. Chip is right. We have to show them what we already know, and Mack is right too. We can be as big as we dream to be. Cool stuff.

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silicon_chippy

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Originally posted by Silicon_Chippy:
In ten years time I honestly believe that Christian games will be on the shelves next to other games without any vision.
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originally posted by Mack
Ten years is too long, dream bigger, think smaller, work longer, pray harder. The goal isn't to be 'on the shelves' but it should be to 'completly own the shelves', all genres, all ages, all media.
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Hi Mack, ten years does sound like a long time, I realise that. What we are dealing with is infinity. I have changed my signature as this is my 100th post, and it echoes what you are right to say.We can change things but not instantly.

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ArchAngel

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quote:
Originally posted by Mack:
Ten years is too long, dream bigger, think smaller, work longer, pray harder. The goal isn't to be 'on the shelves' but it should be to 'completly own the shelves', all genres, all ages, all media.


Take the field! ye-ah! there is no substitute for victory.(k, fine that's for war)
I like your quote!

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zookey

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quote:
Originally posted by Silicon_Chippy:
Kids can no longer be brought up thinking that GTA or Doom are O.K. They need games that are fun to play and nourish their spirituality.


I know this is a side-shoot topic----but that is a thing that irritates me---I think that it is ok for people to play GTA or Doom if they are MATURE enough to handle it-----it drives me insane to see these parents buy teenage games for 2nd graders and then let the game raise the kid for them and then wonder why the kid comes out screwed up----then these same parents have the gall to sue the game industry when they were too lazy to even care for their kid!!!!!! I think almost every game out there has it's place---and the vast majority of people (both Christian and Secular) over 15 can handle those games as long as they respect the borders between God/World and Fantasy/Reality-----but little kids don't know that yet and very few parents work hard enough to teach it----well sorry about that I just had to do a little rant on that because I used to work at a game store and I always felt like I had to make sure the parents knew the rating on their kids games before they even made it to the counter :-) I was really shocked a lot of times when I told parents the rating and they were all shocked and shaken---I was thinking "It is right on the box dude!!!!------don't you know what kind of movies your kids see games aren't any different!"

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Ignorance is bad, if you have it you will not have a good time.

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ArchAngel

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Originally posted by zookey:
I think that it is ok for people to play GTA or Doom if they are MATURE enough to handle it-----it drives me insane to see these parents buy teenage games for 2nd graders and then let the game raise the kid for them and then wonder why the kid comes out screwed up----then these same parents have the gall to sue the game industry when they were too lazy to even care for their kid!!!!!!

I totally agree with you. People just don't take responsiblity. They want other people to take responsiblity for them.

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zookey

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EXACTLY, FROM WHEN I WAS 2 UNTIL I WAS 10 MY PARENTS WORKED A GROUP HOME 24 HOURS A DAY 5 DAYS A WEEK---SO I LITERALLY GREW UP IN A GROUP HOME ON THE WEEKDAYS------AND IT WAS SHOCKING HOW SOME OF THESE PARENTS DON'T CARE (EVEN BEFORE THE VIDEO GAMES WERE AROUND TO BABY SIT THIER KIDS), ONE WOMAN ACTUALLY HAD HER KID (WHO WAS IN THE HOME) BROUGHT UP ON THEFT CHARGES BECAUSE HE TOOK A COOKIE FROM HER COOKIE JAR WHILE HE LIVED WITH HERE!!!!!!!! CRAZY HUH?

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Ignorance is bad, if you have it you will not have a good time.

ArchAngel

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Originally posted by zookey:
ONE WOMAN ACTUALLY HAD HER KID (WHO WAS IN THE HOME) BROUGHT UP ON THEFT CHARGES BECAUSE HE TOOK A COOKIE FROM HER COOKIE JAR WHILE HE LIVED WITH HERE!!!!!!!! CRAZY HUH?

DANG!!! crazy woman! man... inexusable, she should be charged with unlawful amounts of stupidity and irresponisbility. wow.. charging your own kid with stealing... poor kid. man, I'd be a major felon for how many cookies I take... hmm, think I'll take one now.

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zookey

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Originally posted by ArchAngel:
DANG!!! crazy woman! man... inexusable, she should be charged with unlawful amounts of stupidity and irresponisbility. wow.. charging your own kid with stealing... poor kid. man, I'd be a major felon for how many cookies I take... hmm, think I'll take one now.


LOL!!! (I AM AT WORK RIGHT NOW---SO I HAVE TO TYPE ALL CAPS) YEAH----AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY THERE ARE LIKE THAT---THERE IS A KID IN THERE RIGHT NOW WHOSE DAD IS DATING A 'RELIGOUS' WOMAN---I SAY RELIGOUS INSTED OF CHRISTIAN BECAUSE MORON IS ACTUALLY THE BEST WAY TO DESCRIBE HER----SHE ACTUALLY MADE A COMMENT TO THE KID THAT SHE CAN GET MORE LOVE FROM HIS FATHER THAN HE EVER WILL----AND WHEN SHE FINDS PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT CHRISTIAN---SHE ALWAYS MAKES THEM FEEL GUILTY AND YET-----DOESN'T IT SAY IN THE BIBLE THAT JESUS SAVED US FROM GUILT? AND SHE IS USING IT AS A MINISTRY TOOL----------BUT EITHER WAY I DON'T LIKE HER FOR THAT COMMENT SHE MADE TO THE KID------NO WAY IS SOMETHING LIKE THAT EVER RIGHT.

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Ignorance is bad, if you have it you will not have a good time.

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ArchAngel

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sad is the human race, if it wasn't for God, we'd be screwed


of course, we wouldn't exist either... but..

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zookey

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EXACTLY......................AND (AS ONE OF MY MOM'S BOSSES BACK IN THE 80'S SAID) IT IS NOT SURPRISING THAT PPL ARE IGNORANT--WHAT IS SURPRISING IS HOW FAR THEY GO TO PROVE IT. I AM SEVERLY IRRITATED BY DUMB PPL SOMETIMES AND THEY HAVE SO MANY FRIENDS THAT ACT LIKE THEY DO!!!! I MEAN GEEZ---IF IGNORANCE IS BLISS THAN THE WORLD IS FREAKING DISNEY LAND!

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Ignorance is bad, if you have it you will not have a good time.

ArchAngel

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haha, yeah.

Ignorance is bad, if you have it you will not have a good time.
eh?

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zookey

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Uh huh:-) that actually came from a joke that I had with a friend---see there is a SOuth Park episode where a Jock is trying to teach kids how to ski---one kid SLAMMS into the ski lodge and he says
"He pizza'd when he should have french fried---if you pizza when you should french fry you will not have a good time!"
SO my friend and I switched out the wording and made up all sorts of intelligent sayings with that template----and I just picked the ignorance one as my signature lol:-)

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Ignorance is bad, if you have it you will not have a good time.

ArchAngel

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haha

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