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Angel

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Posts: 699
From: The Blissful State Of Me?
Registered: 05-21-2001
Im postin this to see what others might think of a long held dellema. Lets start with our facts and I will use myself as an example.

Poz: Holds others more important then himself.
Neg: Wishis to hurt some people for who they are.
Fact: Jesus said to love them all.

So this is just one little point about myself. However the true problem comes when I juge myself over it. My dad used to tell me that we can juge ourselfs about what we do and take action. I am wandering how much action is needed. I am also wandering how much punishment is needed. I punnish myself in many ways. One of the most commen is to be angree with myself. I dont see how this helps but I still do it. Telling the truth sometimes gets me into truble but whats the point in lieing? I give a self evaluation of me constently and im wandering if im right in doing that. Im not perfect so am I really qualifide to juge myself? Im probably rambeling now ^_^

Anyways I was just wandering if this would strik a conversation. I find that comeing here and just babeling keeps me out of other truble so that is another plus to this place.

God Bless
Angel Azariah

Imsold4christ

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Posts: 305
From: Gresham, OR, US
Registered: 01-20-2001
Here, I have some scripture to quote, and I've bolded all the important parts.

quote:
2nd Peter 1:3-4 (NLT)

(3) As we know Jesus better, his divine power gives us everything we need for living a godly life. He has called us to receive his own glory and goodness! (4) And by that same mighty power, he has given us all of his rich and wonderful promises. He has promised that you will escape the decadence all around you caused by evil desires and that you will share in his divine nature.


So, according to this, God has promised us that he is giving us *supernatural* power to help us live a godly life. But what does that mean we are supposed to do?

quote:
2nd Peter 1:5-9 (NLT)
(5) So make every effort to apply the benefits of these promises to your life. Then your faith will produce a life of moral excellence. A life of moral excellence leads to knowing God better. (6) Knowing God leads to self-control. Self-control leads to patient endurance, and patient endurance leads to godliness. (7) Godliness leads to love for other Christians, and finally you will grow to have genuine love for everyone. (8) The more you grow like this, the more you will become productive and useful in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. (9) But those who fail to develop these virtues are blind or, at least, very shortsighted. They have already forgotten that God has cleansed them from their old life of sin.

According to that passage, one thing leads to another (e.g. faith leads to moral excellence, which leads to knowing God better, which leads to... ect). Anyway, so if you want to have a better love for everyone, I guess that's a general guideline for ya.

..I don't know if that helps or not. I haven't done a real intense study on this passage, so please don't yell at me if I'm wrong. Also Angel, please don't get upset for me using bible verses, I just figure it's harder for me to go wrong with those.

As for the getting angry at yourself part, I'm not quite sure. However, I am pretty sure that once you get so angry to the point where you constantly beat yourself up about it, well, that's not a good thing.

Do you guys think we should ask God on this one? Maybe we could do another e-prayer or something? It'd be neat if there was a chatroom here so that we could all pray at once (hmmm, that's a pretty good idea...). Then we could even save the transcript and post it here.

*shrug*

†Caleb†

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"True friendship is not characterized by the absence of conflict, but by the ability to resolve conflict."

[This message has been edited by imsold4christ (edited January 15, 2002).]

Angel

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Posts: 699
From: The Blissful State Of Me?
Registered: 05-21-2001
What makes you think im going to get mad over that ^_^ Im fine with scripture. I love God's word anyways that is helpfull and makes me a bit chearyer about the subject. A chat room would be cool. The place I used to hang out at from time to time ChristianChat.com is now charging =( so now that place is out. Then again I didnt like the place that much. People wernt as Christ like as they are here. On a good note I just finaly got done organizing and putting into frames 6 languages for the RPG im working on. It took some time becase I have a Problom of useing caps like that from time to time. SO I needed to bring all the already translated words in Dwarf and English to lowercase. Still need to add Dragon, Elf, Orc, and the ancient so called human race of the world. Lots of fun for me ^_^ Makeing up langages and new forms of text has always been an intrest of mine.

Well I have to go for now.

Ta Ta
Angel

MeanManInOz
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Posts: 388
From: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
Registered: 06-26-2001
So this is just one little point about myself. However the true problem comes when I juge myself over it. My dad used to tell me that we can juge ourselfs about what we do and take action. I am wandering how much action is needed. I am also wandering how much punishment is needed. I punnish myself in many ways.

YOu've missed a basic point - salvation was GOD's idea, not ours. Assuming you're a Christian, then when the Bible says to judge ourselves, it's not because we're not worthy ( that's kinda the point of Jesus' death, that we COULDN'T be worthy ), but it's to improve ourselves, to do better and to know that God is pleased when we seek to do well. Read 1 Cor 11, it's all about the communion and the fact that the reason we do this is to examine ourselves, and to recognise our faults, so we can prayerfully look ahead and seek to do better.

So don't punish yourself, God has no pleasure in it.

Angel

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From: The Blissful State Of Me?
Registered: 05-21-2001
Hay man! Nice to see you came back. Hope I didnt bother you too much with that e-mail I sent ya. Still you have some great view points from time to time and thats needed at times. Anyways thanks for the advise and im going to have a look at that chapter. The more scriptures I can find to help my walk with Christ the better! I got a qustion for you though. Are you going to hang around some more?

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Peaza Cheez Mates!
Azariah "Angel"

MeanManInOz
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From: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
Registered: 06-26-2001
I'm actually about to go on a three week holiday, and I'm also pretty busy with work, a side project from home and two magazine articles. So I'll be sporadic at best, but I'll probably hang around, yes.

And I didn't mind your email - the only emails I mind are ones that want my credit card number or bank details :-)

MeanManInOz
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Posts: 388
From: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
Registered: 06-26-2001
I'm actually about to go on a three week holiday, and I'm also pretty busy with work, a side project from home and two magazine articles. So I'll be sporadic at best, but I'll probably hang around, yes.

And I didn't mind your email - the only emails I mind are ones that want my credit card number or bank details :-)

Angel

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Posts: 699
From: The Blissful State Of Me?
Registered: 05-21-2001
That is tripy I dont get thows what I get is "Are you being cheated by your credit card? If you have over $2,000 in debt we want to help you!" I have no debt anymore so thats not very helpful. However when I was in debt the first time I got the e-mail it made me happy. Reason being I wasnt so bad off in debt that I could get help for it

Isnt it amizing how God can send you something to make things better in the oddist of ways. His way deffently aint my way. I would have rathered Him sending me a thousend in the mail... but then again I do have a nice place to live so He does take care of me very well.

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Peaza Cheez Mates!
Azariah "Angel"

[This message has been edited by Angel (edited January 21, 2002).]