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CCN Redesign – Krylar

Krylar

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From: MD, USA
Registered: 03-05-2001
Hiya folks,

I need YOUR help.

I have found over the last year that there are two distinct groups of folks that frequent the CCN. The first group is those who participate in the boards and try to work together to build ideas/games, etc. The second is the group of people that read the Blitz Basic articles and email me directly.

So I have decided to split things up a bit. Here's the plan:

BLITZ: I'm building a new site called "BlitzCoder" which will focus exclusively on Blitz Basic development and such. It will have a "Sponsored by Christian Coders Network" logo at the bottom which will link to the new CCN site.

CCN: Here's where I need your help. I have read through the "Alliance" discussions, and over many topics that are in the boards. The conclusion I've come to is that we don't need a bunch of programming articles up front, we need something that more reflects the NETWORK in Christian Coders Network. Things like:

1) User profiles -- Includes information about each person looking to get involved in a project. Skill sets, experience, languages used, art tool knowledge, etc.

2) Project profiles -- Games, websites, screensavers, etc. Doesn't matter what the project is. This is the place where a person who is starting a project can put information about the project and solicit help.

3) Messageboard areas -- Once a project is started, this is a way for the team on that project to communicate.

I had originally thought to make this a very SourceForge like concept, and it *may* end up going that way. But in the interested of getting this going, I want to keep things to the fundamentals at this point.

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....that all said. Please include your wish-list for what's to come. Please put it in the format of "essentials" first, then a separate section for "future enhancements". I plan to start this REALLY soon.

Thanks for the help!

-Krylar

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Jesusfreak
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From: U.S.A.
Registered: 01-20-2001
Cool idea. Here is what I think....

Essentials:
All the stuff you said Krylar +
I'm not sure if this is a good idea but maybe another project message board for people who want to know information about the project(Release data, features, etc....)

Future enhancements:
I wish this could be an essential but I don't think it can be. A CVS server for projects.... With the ability to make it the server open to the public or closed to the public.

Sorry but that's all I can think of.... I got to go too....

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Mack

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Sounds good to me so far
Saint Cheez
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From: San Diego CA USA
Registered: 06-24-2001
I like this idea. I hope that people will get into it, as the idea sounds like it could be very productive.

St. Cheez

Angel

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From: The Blissful State Of Me?
Registered: 05-21-2001
OK well ya asked for it so I got some ideas. This is all from my stand point and some things I have been looking for on the net but just dont seem to be there.

One it would be nice if people could post what they do, what they are willing to do, if they will work buy contract, what stiles of games they wish to work on, if they want to join a team and are willing to move. For example one of my team memmbers is probly moveing down to my place soon. This will incress productivity and God willing we will be starting our own company.

An other idea would be to have a page devoted to everyones spirtul arguments. I dont mean to be mean to everyone but the postings I had up where really only ment to let people know what was going on and to get feed back about it. That didnt happen I ended up comeing back to the same thing with alot of people yelling there openions. I dont care if they even did try to back it with the Bible... people also make the Bible into there own openion baised on how they view it. So in short it was a total waist of my time. ^_^ Personly I dont care to argue with people over there religis bilifes exspeshily over the net. People will think what they want no matter what. God is the one who changes minds and souls.

It would be cool if we could have more then one pole going on. I mean I do my pole and then have to wait for another one. I really get a kick out of them. No bigy but its an idea.

Many people want to know how to get started on some things. Like programing or starting there first project. Might be nice to have a place with FAQ stuff about that. Info is always nice.

Thats about it out of me for now

Saint Cheez
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From: San Diego CA USA
Registered: 06-24-2001
Hi Angel, I am St. Cheez.

"An other idea would be to have a page devoted to everyones spirtul arguments. I dont mean to be mean to everyone but the postings I had up where really only ment to let people know what was going on and to get feed back about it. That didnt happen I ended up comeing back to the same thing with alot of people yelling there openions. I dont care if they even did try to back it with the Bible... people also make the Bible into there own openion baised on how they view it. So in short it was a total waist of my time. ^_^ Personly I dont care to argue with people over there religis bilifes exspeshily over the net. People will think what they want no matter what. God is the one who changes minds and souls."

Good points, Angel. I was checking your posts. I saw one post on this forum, which was an introduction back in June. Think I came here in July, so I never saw it. Sorry. Well, we should get introduced.

I picked General Discussions, because I was not particularly interested yet in programming discussions... I use Blitz Basic and others use Dark Basic if I am not mistaken. This might be a slight conflict. However, I am starting to like the people on the board, and am warning up to the idea even though I have many sad tales to tell concerning so-called group efforts. So bad that I decided to go it alone for once. Relationships should be 100%/100% with equal respect with as little egotism as possible, which may be darn impossible to do.

Oh, I am interested in producing music or multimedia software, however I am not necessarily into "Christian" music per se. To me, music comes from the soul, so I suppose any music could be considered spiritual music, all on different levels (heaven or hell or whatever). I do not have much opinion on Christian games to be honest. Would they be none violent or something? Hmmmm... think I mentioned that I was not yet ready to go down that road today.

As for opinions, I call mine speculations. I personally do not ask any one to believe me. However, I suppose that there may be certain points Christains can agree upon. Well, I can't be dogmatic about that either. I am starting to note that Christians can be quite different spaces which may never over-lap. I tend toward the negative philosophy where there is always room for doubt much like Thomas. For instance, it is almost impossible to have an intelligent conversation which discuss things invisible. How do you label something you can not see? If you see a door close by itself? What were the causes? Ghosts, God, angels, or even self (excluding natural causes like wind or earthquacks)? I suppose we are all at a disadvantage concerning things which happened centuries ago. Concerning today, I suppose the only things which are real and knowable are our own inner experiences, as we have not direct connections with the outside world except via the senses...unless there is such a thing as a soul. Again, we are talking about something we can not see, therefore you can not even prove that it exists at all. But, out of all the infinite possible explanations, I show a preference for the Judeo- Christian explanations and point-of-views.

As you can tell, I like discussing these things, but I can get into practical programming and practical endeavers also.

Best wishs,

St. Cheez


Briant

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From: Stony Plain, Alberta, Canada
Registered: 01-20-2001
I also like the ideas presented, especially the CVS. I have been looking for a good online CVS system (that is both cheap/free and allows closed source) for a while, and haven't found anything.

Krylar, I have a cable modem and a spare 60 Gig drive. I don't know much about setting up something like what has been proposed in this thread, but I *might* be willing to at least provide the online storage (for a small fee to members to cover the cost of leaving my computer on 24/7). I've already set up an ftp server on it, but that's it. Just a possibility maybe.

Brian

Krylar

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Heya,

I appreciate the offer, Brian. If I charged a fee I could also provide extra diskspace, but I don't want to get into money exchanges.

I'm not so concerned with folks using the site to swap source files, they're typically not huge...it's graphics that I'm concerned with. Writing a CVS, though, is a heckuva challenge and would be quite time-consuming. So I'm going to go with phase 1 for now and see how many people actually get involved in that before spending a LONG time developing something that very few will use

Thanks!

-Krylar

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Jesusfreak
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If you had a server CVS shouldn't(in my opinion) shouldn't be too hard to setup... But yea you should do that other stuff before any thing like CVS....

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Krylar

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From: MD, USA
Registered: 03-05-2001
Step 1 is complete. I've moved the Blitz Basic stuff over to the new site at http://www.blitzcoder.com.

Moving on to step two...designing the new CCN.

Wish me luck!

-Krylar

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Saint Cheez
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From: San Diego CA USA
Registered: 06-24-2001
Really a nifty site. For some reason, the Blitz stuff was not that obvious to me here, as it is on the new sight. The design work is outstanding. Oh, I have used boxes with borders and dark color inside. I like that style also, yet don't see it too often. I am really impressed with your hardwork and motivation, as the design work, articles, source code, etc. is great!

Thanks,

St. Cheez

Krylar

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Thanks for the feedback, St.! I appreciate that Hopefully you'll like the newly designed CCN site too...though it will probably take longer. The BlitzCoder site is really just the CCN site with some different buttons and such...the underlying code is the same. The new CCN site is going to be done from the ground-up.

Thanks again!

-Krylar

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Saint Cheez
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Registered: 06-24-2001
http://www.blitzcoder.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi

The Blitz forum is great. For those who have yet to check it out...you should.

Hmmmm... I was abit shocked. Shane came-by to check out the new Blitz bbs. Boy, he really gets around.

Best wishes,

St. Cheez

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Veritech

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From: Lockport, NY
Registered: 01-20-2001
Hi all,
Been away for awhile, due to a hard drive scramble (never put 2 master hard drives in one PC ^_^). Anyways, on this topic, thats a Great idea. I do like the cvs, who wouldn't ^_^ I also like the multiple poles idea (specific poles in different meassage boards.) I have no idea if that'll work with your ubb, but it's a nice idea.
So would these new various project boards be open to the general public, or would they be private?
Gotta run, God Bless,
Veritech

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thomas0654
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From: Snyder, Texas, USA
Registered: 07-18-2001
Hi People,

The Blitzcoder site is real neat. I'm learning all about game programming since I've been away from programming for several years, but I love programming.

To me I love the Christian Coders site, but I'm new.

Has there ever been any talk about a prayer column. I mean there is room for belief discussion. I just wondered about prayer needs,

Thomas

Angel

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Hello NewB! I was wandering what exactly would a Prayer Colome be for? Like would we strickly put things that people want us to pray about for them, would we put up what we want people to pray for us about, or would it be both? Then again do you mean a message board like this or a strait list of stuff... sorta like a guestbook but for only prayer? Just wandering if you have some exacts in mine?

Off that subject what kind of programing are you into? What do you do? Have a web page? I have alot of time on my hands thats why im pestering you. Also im browsing around for someone to do a 2D game with. Just a simple little platform game. Working on the little characters for it right now... the art that is.

Look I got the base done for the characters (male) Now I have to work on the Girls.

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kevryan
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From: Shaver Lake, CA
Registered: 07-20-2001
I love your cool
little guys!
Angel

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Thank you very much. Im a little tired right now but I had a qustion for you. Did you ever reseve an e-mail from AngelAzariah@hotmail.com ? I think I e-mailed you awhile back and never got an exact reply on it... maybe im just to tired right now ^_^

Oh well, Thanks again.
Azariah

thomas0654
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From: Snyder, Texas, USA
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I meant a topic dealing with prayer requests for others to pray for. There could also be praise for prayers answered.

Tommy

Krylar

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From: MD, USA
Registered: 03-05-2001
Heya,

Certainly! Just click on the NEW TOPIC button and set it up. If that's what you mean If you mean something a little more formal, it's something I can do but it'll probably go in later since the boards can be used for this easily.

Thanks (and welcome aboard!),

-Krylar

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