Briant Member Posts: 742 From: Stony Plain, Alberta, Canada Registered: 01-20-2001 |
Catechumen just made the list in PC Gamer magazine's (pcgamer.com) "The 10 Weirdest PC Games Ever Made". See http://www.pcgamer.com/headline/headlines2462.html for details. Comments? |
Revelator Member Posts: 226 From: Sydney, NSW, Australia Registered: 03-22-2001 |
That's a rough assessment. I haven't played the game yet, I think I will play it this weekend (One of the benefits of working in a Christian Bookstore is that I can borrow any item they have) Revelator! ------------------ |
Mack Administrator Posts: 2779 From: Registered: 01-20-2001 |
I picked up The War in Heaven along with the new Living Sacrifice CD (if your into Christian metalcore/death metal, get it, now, it ROCKS!), and it was fun (but of course, kicking demon butt is always fun). It's not normal seeing Christian games out on the secular market, along with different ideas, so I'm not surprised it made the wierd list. |
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graceworks Member Posts: 455 From: Corvallis, Oregon, USA Registered: 03-03-2001 |
I finished Catechumen. Great game (and way, way better than War In Heaven in game engine). And tough to beat, at least for me!  See http://members.nbci.com/ShepStaff/reviews.htm for my review of Catechumen. The review needs polished but may give you an idea of the game. You can also download a (big) demo at http://www.catechumen.com (note that I haven't tried the demo so not sure how much of the game you get to play). FYI, N-Lighting is real close on releasing their second game called Ominous Horizons. It should be another hit. Note that my review says Ominous is a sequel to Catechumen. That is an error that I'll correct, it is a full game. -Tim [This message has been edited by graceworks (edited June 22, 2001).] |
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Mack Administrator Posts: 2779 From: Registered: 01-20-2001 |
In terms of game engine, yes, Catechumen is alot better, that was War in Heavens basically falling point, that and not having multiplayer. The great thing about Christian games is that they bring people to Jesus. War in Heaven, for example, brought the CEO of that publishing company we contacted to Jesus, and then that publishing company became very interested in publishing agressive Christian games (enter TGS). I well imagine that Catechumen has saved some lives, and so has some of the Wisdom Tree games. I hope Ominous Horizons does well, more so in the secular industry than the Christian industry. Mostly because of the point I listed above. Catechumen got alot of slashing around the secular industry, which basically brought me to the conclusion that Christian developers should have a friendship between each other, and give each other prayers and moral support. I was wrong it jump into the same boat and slash it, I still think it has some dumb concepts, but that's not the concern anymore. The concern is how well can it bring lives to Jesus, I think this should be the main focus in all Christian games. |
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graceworks Member Posts: 455 From: Corvallis, Oregon, USA Registered: 03-03-2001 |
quote: Amen! Perhaps a rousing chorus of Amens from the CC community! Well said Mack. Krylar, let's start a quote forum!!
quote: Agreed! As you have seen from the Conference postings, I intend to do something about this to get us together! My day job is keeping me busy though, so it will probably be next year .... stay tuned!
quote: Wow, thanks for that information. I did not know that the CEO of Eternal Warriors was saved because of the game! Is there any captured news or interviews with that type of information? Is that something CCN wants to capture? -Tim |
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Mack Administrator Posts: 2779 From: Registered: 01-20-2001 |
The CEO of the publishing company that published The War in Heaven, got saved from playing WIH. |
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Revelator Member Posts: 226 From: Sydney, NSW, Australia Registered: 03-22-2001 |
Well, I tried playing Catechuman, but for some reason my computer is not powerful enough. I really hate that, because it looked good. Time for a new computer I think (ha ha - I wish) Revelator! ------------------ |
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Mack Administrator Posts: 2779 From: Registered: 01-20-2001 |
Whats your computer system Revelator? |
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Revelator Member Posts: 226 From: Sydney, NSW, Australia Registered: 03-22-2001 |
Hi Mack It's a laptop. I think what the games needs is 16 meg of video ram. |
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Mack Administrator Posts: 2779 From: Registered: 01-20-2001 |
Probably |
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graceworks Member Posts: 455 From: Corvallis, Oregon, USA Registered: 03-03-2001 |
quote: I hear you Revelator! Catechumen set on my shelf for about six months before I had a machine that could run it! 16 Meg VRAM should be it. 3D accelerated. The recommended processor is 300 MHz Pentium with 64 Meg of RAM. Another suggestion is visit a friend with a powerful enough machine. That way you can show the game to someone else at the same time! -Tim |
joeG Member Posts: 90 From: OK, US Registered: 01-20-2001 |
I was looking for some info about Spiritual Warfare a few months ago, and came across a site that ranked it one of the 10 most strangest games joeG |
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Mack Administrator Posts: 2779 From: Registered: 01-20-2001 |
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joeG Member Posts: 90 From: OK, US Registered: 01-20-2001 |
It's also a pretty rare game according to some sites. Although I find it strange because they're still trying to sell off the last copies at the local Christian bookstore When I played it I got as far as the caves underneath the prisons. I remember how shocked I was when the angel took away the Breastplate because you entered a bar "top 10 strangest game" - that kind of hurts cause it still is my favorite Christian game. joeG |
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Mack Administrator Posts: 2779 From: Registered: 01-20-2001 |
Wisdome Tree homepage: |
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joeG Member Posts: 90 From: OK, US Registered: 01-20-2001 |
You know, WisdomTree has a pretty interesting past Before they became WisdomTree they were among the few companies who actually created unlicensed 8-bit Nintendo games (I think Namco, Tengen were some others). According to some others' opinions they were about to be sued by Nintendo when they decided to start making Christian games. I think "Sunday Funday" was one of their first titles. Anyone have a copy? joeG |
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Mack Administrator Posts: 2779 From: Registered: 01-20-2001 |
Not I, I only owned Spiritual Warfare (for both Nintendon and PC), Joshua, King of Kings and Exodus from Wisdom Tree. |
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MeanManInOz Member Posts: 388 From: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia Registered: 06-26-2001 |
"The great thing about Christian games is that they bring people to Jesus" I am using the alien smiley for this post because anyone who makes this statement must come from another planet. Christian games in my experience are very bad, very preachy and very likely to amuse/repel people who have not already been converted and brainwashed to think that anything that has been 'Christianised' is good, no matter how bad it is. |
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Mack Administrator Posts: 2779 From: Registered: 01-20-2001 |
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MeanManInOz Member Posts: 388 From: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia Registered: 06-26-2001 |
So you're saying that people are downloading Catche-whatever, playing it, and as they see the Roman guards fall to their knees, they repent and call on God for salvation ? Without any other human intervention ? Bring them on, I'm sure they are all here at Christian Coders. I'd love to hear testimony of this actually occuring. |
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Mack Administrator Posts: 2779 From: Registered: 01-20-2001 |
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Christian games plant seeds, Christians plant seeds, Christian anything (books, video's, tv things, etc.) plants seeds, and anything related to God, makes that seed grow. At the proper time, the seed bursts out of the soil, and grows into a plant. Same thing, the non-Christian accepts God and starts to grow in Him. Christian games are a form of seed planting, and seed growing for people. Of course the person has a choice to completely shut off that growing process (God didn't make us to be like robots, we have free will), or if something wrong happens (like a wacky nut comes running up to them and beats them with a Bible screaming). Just because Christian games "currently" aren't that super, it doesn't mean that the future ones will suck as well. Everyone learns from mistakes, in fact, I would really like to hear some things you would like to see in a Christian game. Currently Two Guys Software (the company I'm working for) is developing Revelation, which is one of the widely accepted Christian games by secular people. |
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MeanManInOz Member Posts: 388 From: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia Registered: 06-26-2001 |
I'd like to see a Christian game where you fly around and shoot people.... About the only format that might lend itself to a 'Christian' game is an adventure. Apart from that, I don't see how it can fail to be preachy and contrived. Unless the game requires you to pause and think by it's nature, it's not going to be able to do that at all. |
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Revelator Member Posts: 226 From: Sydney, NSW, Australia Registered: 03-22-2001 |
Finally something positive... Yes, there are ways Christian games can be created without being "preachy". None of us here are interested in making "preachy" games, but rather games that are innovative and are based on Christian principles. I can't wait to see how Revelation turns out (Just hope my computer has enough grunt to run it). Hurry up you two guys software. I'm praying hard you get a publisher. |
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MeanManInOz Member Posts: 388 From: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia Registered: 06-26-2001 |
//None of us here are interested in making "preachy" games, but rather games that are innovative and are based on Christian principles. If that is the case, you're probably trying to start a revolution. Every 'Christian' game I have seen has made me cringe. It's embarrassing to call oneself a Christian and have people lump you in with everything else that uses the name, like the insipid ads on the TV and games like 'Life's Challenge', or whatever it was. I think the trick is to always look at it from the perspective of the end player who doesn't want to be bashed over the head with a pop up scripture at every turn.... |
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Mack Administrator Posts: 2779 From: Registered: 01-20-2001 |
TGS will be building Christian games that are very drawn back from the entire Bible thumping additude and yet present the Bible in aspects that either reach out quietly and effectivly or add story to the game. |
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joeG Member Posts: 90 From: OK, US Registered: 01-20-2001 |
quote: ...like a good book, no? Which Christian books have kept you riveted to your seat? I have my own list. Alot of these books were written by authors like Frank Peretti and C.S. Lewis. Most of what I'm churning around in my head can be considered derivatives of their works. A favorite of mine happens to be [U]Door in the Dragon's Throat[/U], one of Peretti's children's stories. Very Indiana Jone'sish if you ask me. If you haven't already, take some time to read it (if you can find it), it's only 150 or so pages. An important note is that these authors develop really good models (rules that define interaction with the story's universe--someone might need to rephrase that The same goes for those game ideas spinning around in my head. Much of the universe modeling is borrowed from my favorite stories, yet the hardest part is struggling to come up with a convincing plot that reveals the intricaties (sp?) of the story's universe. Having tried to seperately define the model of a story's universe and the story's implementation, it occurred to me that your problem with Christian games is that the message of the Gospel is presented in the story's (if any) implementation more so than in it's universe. Am I on the right track here? If so, then let me say that some games exist that don't do that. One that readily comes to mind is the game Myst. From what I've gathered the mythology (model of the storie's universe) behind the game more or less corresponds to the Christian worldview, although the plot (or implementation) does not mention one Scripture verse, or even God for that matter. Agree|Disagree? joeG |
MamimiFista Junior Member Posts: 9 From: Delta, PA, USA Registered: 10-09-2005 |
I have a question about the Catechuman game... I just got it and keep trying to play but after the angel gives you the sword I go to pick it up then it disapears before I can! I have 'enter' set as the button to use the sword and when I push it I get nothing. Has anyone else had this problem? Or am I just doing something wrong??? |
ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
I dunno, I never had that problem. ------------------ |
Realm Master Member Posts: 1971 From: USA Registered: 05-15-2005 |
whoa... this is a peice of history here, 2001!!?! i havn't seen ANY of these guys around... curse my unknown ability to drive off the older generation!!!! ------------------ Blessed are those who suffer for doing what is right. PM ME YOUR DESCRIPTION OF ME! ILL PUT IT HERE! lava-Realm Master is a swell guy (no joke ppl, he acutally sent that) ArchAngel-RM, I'm prescribing some ritalin for you. And when I say "some", I mean "alot." And when I mean "alot," I mean for you too move the cars out of the driveway for the truck to back in. (what in the world is he talking aobut??) |
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ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
yeah... those ppl were around when I first joined. ------------------ |
Imsold4christ Member Posts: 305 From: Gresham, OR, US Registered: 01-20-2001 |
Haha, yes. I remember this. This was before the boards became dominated by younger people. The people here probably left to find a more mature audience. That's pretty much what I did. I only lurk here once in a great while now. You know, for old time's sake. -Caleb ------------------ |
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ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
yeah, the immaturity is starting to drive me off.
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Realm Master Member Posts: 1971 From: USA Registered: 05-15-2005 |
aawww man! i just HATE being the cause of all this.
------------------ Blessed are those who suffer for doing what is right. PM ME YOUR DESCRIPTION OF ME! ILL PUT IT HERE! lava-Realm Master is a swell guy (no joke ppl, he acutally sent that) ArchAngel-RM, I'm prescribing some ritalin for you. And when I say "some", I mean "alot." And when I mean "alot," I mean for you too move the cars out of the driveway for the truck to back in. (what in the world is he talking aobut??) gamer4christ-Seriously, you [realm master] seem like a cool guy, sure you have some growing up to do, but your thirteen... I think we all have been there. Definitely has the ability to keep us on our toes. Now whether or not that is a good thing or not, I have not figured out yet, lol. =P dedicatedrider-RM's Cool. He's got a little growing up to do, but we've all been there firemaker-^^^^^^Everything posted above into one person... :P |
Klumsy Administrator Posts: 1061 From: Port Angeles, WA, USA Registered: 10-25-2001 |
so caleb, where do you go now? ------------------ |
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Imsold4christ Member Posts: 305 From: Gresham, OR, US Registered: 01-20-2001 |
Hey Karl. I've withdrawn to my own site and to some friends' xanga journals. You? ------------------ |
crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
you know, its really a shame that this has happened. I am obviously a younger person, but one of the things I enjoyed most about CCN was that there was alot of serious (very interesting) conversation here. I have been around for about a year, and seen the change as it happened. I think I may have been one of the first to bring this change about, but by no intention of my own. I kinda feel like the site that pulled me in is no longer here... RM, its not Completely your fault. It may seem easy to make you the scapegoat, but there is alot of immaturity floating around. CheeseStorm rarely even posts anymore(...wow...). I feel somewhat responsible for wrecking a perfectly good site. ------------------ |
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Realm Master Member Posts: 1971 From: USA Registered: 05-15-2005 |
yeah, but you'r not the immature one, I AM.. i gotta get a grip... ------------------ Blessed are those who suffer for doing what is right. PM ME YOUR DESCRIPTION OF ME! ILL PUT IT HERE! [This message has been edited by Realm Master (edited October 12, 2005).] |
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Mack Administrator Posts: 2779 From: Registered: 01-20-2001 |
This thread is so old;
quote: Last year I heard that Catechumen brought several people to start a relationship with Jesus.
quote: Games to play: Rebel Planets Orion, Brethren Entertainments Light Rangers, Boanerges Armageddon, Digital Praise Dance Praise, White Knights Timothy and Titus, the list goes on and on. And currently were developing Eternal War: Nightmares. ------------------ [This message has been edited by Mack (edited October 13, 2005).] |
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Klumsy Administrator Posts: 1061 From: Port Angeles, WA, USA Registered: 10-25-2001 |
hey mack, thanks for your humility and praise the Lord for the salvations, Yeah.!!! ------------------ |
So, save your nickels and dimes!
