I am currently working on the first draft, as a first reference, I am also looking for hard working, serious gamers/developers, who are willing to contribute something or anything to this magazine. This is is going to start out online, with website, and be an online Magazine, but eventually go to hard copy, while still being available to these customers online or as a stand alone subscription for less. For instance, if you are wanting a game to be previewed send me the information, maybe a sample of the game to play, so I can give my own opinions and all, and screenshots help. If you are willing to give an interview, then please tell me you are interested, and I will take you down on a list of possible interviewees. Or even people who are willing to work for the magazine as a regular columnist (which, for now, is a non-profit VOLUNTEER position), or even freelance. So if anyone is interested, or has anything they would like to see in a Christian Gaming Magazine, please email me, with the subject of "Outkast Christian Gaming Magazine", at heavenly_blessed@hotmail.com. I appreciate it alot. Thanks for the future encouragement, and help. God Bless You All!!!

Still Gaming 4 HIM!
~G4C

PS: To the owner of CCN, I would also like to advertise this community in it, so if I could have permission to use the logo, and title that would be excellent. If you have an advertisement page idea, I am more then willing to put it in there.

PSS: I would also appreciate any other Christian Gaming sites' link, that might be willing to contribute to the Magazine.

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Originally posted by gamer4christ:
Thanks Zookey, for the reply, and I will check my email as soon as I can, lol. I had no idea there was a band called Outkast, thanks for the info, back to the drawing board on the name I guess, lol, but I will trust the Lord in providing a name for us. As far as "us against the world", it was never intended to be like that, out intention has always been to open Christian gaming and views to the world, not just fight with the rest of the world. Like you said, we are in this world, not of it. Thanks for the help, and we will definitley be adding you to the list.

Still Gaming 4 Christ,
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Sweet cool cool hehe! Maybe Outquast? Or just Outcast? The name is cool--just didn't know if it would be an issue sharing it with the band (I don't know if it matters since the band is in music and this is in gaming, but figured I would be remiss in not stating it)--either way that is awesome you are doing it!!!!

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I hope you don't mind if I ask you some hard questions?

#1) The first thing I always ask people asking for help on their own projects is what experience they have working on a similar project in a supportive role. I'm assuming you've worked as a writer/editor of a magazine/newspaper before?

#2) When making any project, you should be able to make a statement that says very clearly why your product is better than your leading competitor. For instance, I can think of 4 other projects that are out there that have very similar goals to yours:

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I am working on making a gaming magazine for both Christian gamers, and parents so they are informed on upcoming games, and games already out, and have a nice list of fun, and acceptable games.

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The ones that I can think of off the top of my head are:
Family Friendly Gaming - "This website is for and about video games from a family friendly viewpoint. The Family Friendly Gaming website goes hand in hand with the Family Friendly Gaming magazine - which was the first ever Christian video game magazine. There are plenty of family friendly video games out there; we work very hard to find them for you, and to give them their much deserved time in the lime light. Not everything from the video game industry is bad, and we do our small part to exhibit that."

Al Menconi Ministries - "Helping Parents Communicate Values to Their Children" (with a good-sized-and-growing section specifically for games)

Christ Centered Game Reviews - "CCGR.org is a Christian computer game review site. We are not limited to Christian computer games, our main focus is on secular games and their content. So many games out there are inappropriate for children and Christians. Our reviews help Christians and parents choose their games wisely. We also discuss other criteria in games that non-Christians will appreciate. We feel our content is important because games are expensive and difficult to return. Our mission is to find games that are both fun and appropriate. There are many computer game review sites out there. Ours is unique and offers a different perspective on today's computer games. Our site is family friendly, so there is no cussing or inappropriate material anywhere."

Plain Games - "Plain Games is here to help by providing a more in-depth look into the content of video games when viewed through our lens of Christian values. It is our hope that having this information will better equip you in selecting games for your child’s play."

It seems that you're closest to FFG in goals and methodology. I suppose I'm wondering why you feel compelled to start a new work (and further fragment the available labor), as opposed to pitching in with them when it seems that all of the above Christian gaming magazines have plenty of open positions.

Not that I don't see the potential for new Christian gaming magazines to crop up, I'm just not yet seeing what you are offering to bring new to the table.

Again, these questions aren't meant to be rude -- but they may be a tad brutally honest. They were only meant in a kind spirit.

Hope you and Teresa are doing well!

In Christ,
clint

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You can use Outkast as long as your motto is "Heyyyy yah... for Christ!" or "Shake it like a Polaroid picture.. for Christ!"

Seriously, I have the song stuck in my head now.

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Hehe LOL---not related to Outkast but 'we r da l33t haxors 4 krist!'---yeah that wouldn't have geek written all over it, not at all hehe!

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Fulfill the above and i'll subscribe

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I think it could work, but you will need to approach it from a fresh angle and offer something new. I personally don't subscribe to any Christian Games/Gaming Magazines or websites (other then CCN obviously). I would like to see a magazine, that combines Christian Gaming news, Christian Reviews of Secular Games, Coding Tutorials and Tech Articles. Christian Game Developer interviews and a demo/tools/apps/special offers download/cd.

Fulfill the above and i'll subscribe

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I personally think that would be an awesome angle--add in interviews and reviews of secular games that don't feature sexuality and/or outright satanic stuff (many things in games and movies people would say are satanic I believe are just fantasy elements--I am talking if a game actually tried to convince a person to do something wrong in real life)----for instance (although, admitidly, this is a stretch) it would be cool to do a feature on Heavenly Sword since they have a strong female lead who ISN'T intended to be eye candy---her costume covers all her private areas and the entire game presents her as this well created human being with faults and strengths--I was so psyched to see that some developers out there are actually willing to NOT have immature crap----actually they made the main bad guy in the game a sexual pervert to vilify him more--almost as a contrast to the female lead who is honorable---so, if you could interview people that do stuff like that which, in turn, inspires the next generation of game designers to higher standards--that'd rock the house!

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As for interviewing people (like Zookey), I've had some experience in that style of writing, just ask a couple frequent posters around here .

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As for interviewing people (like Zookey), I've had some experience in that style of writing, just ask a couple frequent posters around here .

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Heck yes he is good at it CPU why is your now-old-but-was-new avatar in your signature now? That thing is wicked man it should be your avatar hehe! What'd be sweet is if you created an online program where people could submit 3 logos or small pictures in GIF or JPEG format and it mods them onto the sides of that box thing--hehe that would be cool!

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EDIT: The more I think about this, the more on fire I am about it (both writing for and reading)!

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"Oh, bother," said the Borg. "We've assimilated Pooh."

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Oh, btw, if you're looking for a print publisher, Lulu.com may be your best bet. It's a DIY publishing company where you pay for the amount of items you're publishing. They do magazines and books and the like.

EDIT: The more I think about this, the more on fire I am about it (both writing for and reading)!

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Cool idea there dude--like your new-new avatar hehe!

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Second off, I want to apologize for not responding as quickly as I would've liked to, I do not have access to the internet all the time, so please bear that in mind when replying to me, lol, please do not get impatient when waiting for a response from me, I will get back to you as soon as I am able, lol.

Now to the actual replies...

@Zookey: I like the name outcast, however it is spelled, so it will probably go to OutCast, lol.

@ArchAngel: LOL, interesting.

@Jari: I would be honored to review Darkening. Just tell me when you are ready for me to do so, I am willing to look at it at anytime at all, so whenever you want to reveal it to me, lol.

@Mene-Mene: lol, I would be appreciative of any help, lol, I will get back to you on something you could do, lol, but just tell me of something you are more interested doing. Giving or doing interviews, reviews, previews, articles? lol, as far as the rest of the post, I am kind of confused, are you saying you are more likely to pick up a gaming magazine named Outcast, or are you saying you are less likely to do so? lol

@HanClinto: Yeah, lol, it has been a while since I have been here like this, lol. I do not mind the hard questions at all, lol. I actually like being asked quesions because it makes me think about why I am doing something, or things that I have not thought about before, so I will answer your questions to the best of my ability.
-Ok, so I have not worked for a Newspaper, or Magazine, that was really published, but I have written many articles for ones, like mine, who are made by smaller groups/individuals. And even though it was along time ago, I did run a school newspaper, so I have experience as far as writing, and being a big fan of magazines I know what sells and what doesn't, well I know what people like to see in magazines. As far as delegating tasks, and being a leader of sorts, I am, currently, a Department Manager, not very high manager, but I do delegate tasks daily, lol. So none of that is REALLY relevant, but I do have experience with both writing for a paper of sorts, and managing a team of people to do so.
-As far as a statement that says my product is better then others, I really have not thought of one yet, lol, but I know it is unique, because, although very good sources, the ones you listed are more focused on the parents or the families (technically still the parents), while mine is going to be more focused on the gamer, with multiple family/parental articles. I am also not trying to show JUST Christian games to Christians and non-believers, but also shed light on Secular gaming from a Christian perspective.
- lol, not to be rude, but honest, it seems that there are not near that many christian game/hobby related magazines, as there are secular (which they seem to find plenty of work for the 30+ different mags out there on gaming alone) and I do not see any harm, or the fragmenting of labor when adding another source for people to come to. And the last thing, this is still under development, and will probably not see any shelves for a while, lol. We are working hard on what we could do for this, and with only two people solidly on board we can only move so fast.
-BTW I appreciate the hard questions, and encourage more to be asked, lol. Then maybe I can get my statement out that says that this Mag is better then the others. Also Teresa and I are doing very well, lol.

@D-SIPL: Alot of what you have listed to a Mag you would subscribe to, is actually on our list to put in the Magazine, lol. So I hope, when it is published, you find it is worth your time to pick up, and maybe subscribe to, lol.

@Zookey Again: I think the Heavenly Sword story is exciting to, lol. I was discouraged when it was described as the next God Of War, but you have brought it back under my attention, and I must investigate it further, lol. I would love to see more games developed like that, where they vilify the immoral, and encourage the honorable.

@CPUFreak: Lol, well like I said before, I found alot of what he listed is already on our list to put in it. lol, I would gladly take your assitance in interviewing people, lol. I will gladly see if there is anything, which I am sure there is, lol, that I can see if you would be interested in doing.
-Lulu.com? Hmmm... I will have to check it out, and see their prices on things, lol.

@Bennythebear: One of the things we were talking about is doing a "Console Grade Card", which would be more based on two things, actual innovations, and specs and all that cool stuff, but also on what games they offer that are more appropriate for certain age groups, like how Nintendo always does more family/kid oriented games and Microsoft/Sony does more mature, and teen oriented games, lol.

Again thanks for all the hope, and encouragement. I appreciate it alot, lol. I love getting all of these replies, lol. And so far, save for Zookey, I have seen all of the Older Members who I am used to talking to about things, lol, which is encouraging to see that everyone is still here and still strong.

Still Gaming 4 Him,
~G4C

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btw, zookey, i sort of copied this

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@Leet Hacker: LOL, if you look at any of my posts you will notice I say "lol" at least 3 times in each post, and that is JUST short, one sentence posts. But when it comes to writing, and being serious the "lol"'s are absent as they should be, lol. =P

BTW you put: 1 4|\/| 73|-| |_||332-1337 |-|@><0|2 4 (|-||21$7.
Did you mean: 1 4|\/| 7|-|3 |_||33|2-1337 |-|@><0|2 4 (|-||21$7.?

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BTW you put: 1 4|\/| 73|-| |_||332-1337 |-|@><0|2 4 (|-||21$7.
Did you mean: 1 4|\/| 7|-|3 |_||33|2-1337 |-|@><0|2 4 (|-||21$7.?

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Holy crap I went cross eyed trying to read that LOL

It is an honor you took my joke and made it your signature!

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just don't say "lol" so much. lol.

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G4C-
I should have a couple games coming out this year (before CGDC.) So, you can interview me about that, if you want.

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@JeTSpice: I would be more then willing to do an interview, I will add you to our list. If you could email me at heavenly_blessed@hotmail.com with a link to your site, if you have one, lol, and some general information about the game, and your company, it will help me conduct the interview.

Thanks.

~G4C

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