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spade89

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From: houston,tx
Registered: 11-28-2006
hey guys questions here how big of a server do you need to handle something like 2000+ users a day and maybe over 5 in a minute.

and how do you a quire a web address like "www.something.com"

and how much does it cost to buy the server?

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Briant

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Hey,

It's pretty simple. Are you talking about a website where people just visit and possibly download files? If so, check the hosting link in my sig, they can more than handle it (all the info is there, but let me know if you have any other questions). If you're talking about a game server where you can run your own game with multiple online players, someone else hopefully will have more info.

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spade89

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From: houston,tx
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i meant a site that can brodcast live video stream to lots of users maybe at the same time .

but as far as the content goes think basic html and some fancy gif/jpeg/png graphics.

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Faith_Warrior

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Usually to stream such as with shout cast using winamp you will need access to a server where you can run processes on (such as from a root account) which typical web hosting account providers usually do not allow. As for bandwidth or the ammount of people that can use it, that all depends on the bandwidth usage of your data stream; a 9kbps stream will allow more people to use the stream compared to a 512kbps stream.
spade89

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From: houston,tx
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i meant buy a server not use a webhost.

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Briant

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quote:
Originally posted by spade89:
i meant a site that can brodcast live video stream to lots of users maybe at the same time .

but as far as the content goes think basic html and some fancy gif/jpeg/png graphics.


The host info I gave above can handle that no problem. You can send them an email with specific questions about it if you want. However, if you want your own dedicated server (which I really doubt you need), it's going to be quite expensive - I'll try and dig up some info...

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spade89

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From: houston,tx
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i want to use java and i don't know any web-hosts that allow that and i need to brodcast live video stream so ...

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Faith_Warrior

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Well you didn’t make it clear that you understood the difference, I answer a lot of questions where the poster does not know the difference between web hosting and dedicated servers. Usually they simply say server rather than dedicated server or VPS so chances are you were not distinguishing between the differences thus I responded in the logical manor.

Anyhoot, I still can’t answer your question since you didn’t provide any information on your data stream bit rate, so it can be 1 to 1 million people.

As for server prices, there are many factors. To “buy” one, that all depends on how much you want to spend, toss me $200k and I’ll use every penny to build a server, but one can be bought for $2 on the other end of the spectrum.

Then you must have the bandwidth to operate the server which is usually more dependant on the upstream rather than the downstream, usually by a home connection this can be very expensive especially if you need to run a fiber into your home for high bandwidth needs. Often a DSL (ADSL being a better choice) or cable connection is limited to just how much bandwidth can be transferred at any given time by package deal and they usually don‘t even offer server grade packages. Satellite can work as well… but not as well since there is a delay and it tends to be more expensive. Co-locating into an established datacenter is my choice, either that or renting a server from a datacenter, directly. Prices all vary, but looking over maybe serverpronto.com may give you some ideas.

spade89

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From: houston,tx
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what do you mean bit rates i am new to this whole video thing.

so but i will use java and mpeg files.

at the best what is your estimate?

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Faith_Warrior

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When you rip an audio CD (not illegal of course) to your computer, what bit rate do you set it to rip at? Generally it's 128kbps. On a dial-up connection at ~56kbps that would only be half the bitrate possible for that mp3 file if you were to stream it to them. Streaming videos usually range from 28kbps up to a bitrate that would challenge the typical home DSL connection (and that is not the max). Usually the bitrate of a file is set at encoding and compression. Basically you will need to do some math to figure out what will work best for the files compared to how many people you want to host the video for at any given time as well as the long term usage of bandwidth over a sustained time. This will all depend on the quality of the files which you wish to stream vs. bandwidth usage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitrate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streaming_media
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoutcast

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spade89

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From: houston,tx
Registered: 11-28-2006
question here about bandwidth:

what is it ? i have some idea of bandwidth in physhics and stuff but not in computers. i have heard of it but i don't quite get it.

here is the thing the webhost we are currently using right now wants us to upgrade our band width or something by buying a server can we do that.

if i use a gigabit network card and if i hava a 1mbps connection would that be enough?

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