SSquared Member Posts: 654 From: Pacific Northwest Registered: 03-22-2005 |
In case you have not heard, you can get Visual Studio 2005 Standard for almost free if you watch and evaluate two of Microsoft's Visual Basic Labcasts. There is a nominal fee and shipping/handling charges. Nearly free Visual Studio 2005 I have already watched one and evaluated it. I will probably watch a second this weekend. I have already received a phone call from Microsoft about it, but I haven't returned the call. Hopefully tomorrow. The Labcasts are actually pretty cool. You are working in Visual Studio over the web and doing labs and stuff. Pretty neat. I will probably start taking some others on C#, C++, and database. Please no comments about how non-MS compilers/languages are free and require no hassles. I just want to let others know who may desire/want Visual Studio Standard if you want to upgrade from the Express Editions. |
steveth45 Member Posts: 536 From: Eugene, OR, USA Registered: 08-10-2005 |
What a deal! ------------------ |
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JeTSpice Member Posts: 433 From: La Crosse, Wisconsin, USA Registered: 06-10-2006 |
What is visual studio--is it like visual basic? |
Faith_Warrior Member Posts: 490 From: So.Cal. Registered: 09-05-2006 |
quote: It is VB. Hmmm… I’m tempted to do this, but I’m fairly rusty with VB now. I have the VB Pro box set but it’s an older version now. Been wanting to upgrade… ah but I probably wouldn’t use it since I’m too busy with BlitzBasic. Tempting though... |
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steveth45 Member Posts: 536 From: Eugene, OR, USA Registered: 08-10-2005 |
quote: Visual Studio 2005 Standard Edition includes Visual Basic, C#, C++, and J#. If you're interested, you can download Express versions, which are divided up by language (Visual C++ Express, Visual Basic Express, etc.) The labcasts you have to watch and evaluate are focused on Visual Basic. ------------------ |
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SSquared Member Posts: 654 From: Pacific Northwest Registered: 03-22-2005 |
As Steveth mentioned, the Standard Edition contains all of the languages (C++, C#, VB, J#, and I think ASP.NET) wrapped into one package and IDE. This means you can have projects spanning multiple languages, unlike the Express Editions. The required Labcasts use Visual Basic, and I actually found the first one to show off some really nice features of VB. I forgot to mention, the labs are around 45 minutes to an hour. The Standard Edition also comes with all the normal wizards to create projects (Express leaves some out). The Standard edition for C++ also contains the Platform SDK (for Win32) and MFC. Express C++ requires a separate download/install of Platform SDK and does not allow MFC work. |
kenman Member Posts: 518 From: Janesville WI Registered: 08-31-2006 |
Yeah, just finished the second lab, quote: I would urge anyone who does not have this to get it. MS does like to give stuff away |
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SSquared Member Posts: 654 From: Pacific Northwest Registered: 03-22-2005 |
Alright! I'll be taking my 2nd one sometime this weekend. I called back the MS rep today and it was just some marketing thing trying to find out why I took the Labcast and my company's interest in MS technology. With a phone call followup in a few months seeing how we are progressing with MS technology. |
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kenman Member Posts: 518 From: Janesville WI Registered: 08-31-2006 |
you can nix the phone calls, there is a small check box at the bottom that you can uncheck. I do get quite a few MS phone calls, usually one a week. A small price to pay for some of the good freebees I have been getting lately. MS office professional 2007 as the latest, now Visual Studio. |
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SSquared Member Posts: 654 From: Pacific Northwest Registered: 03-22-2005 |
I thought I unchecked all the checks. Although it seems like I filled out the same "Tell Us About Yourself" form about 3 or 4 times and started just going through it real quickly. Thanks for the reminder. I will keep my eyes open and be sure they are not checked. Wow! You got MS Office too? What a deal! |
InsanePoet Member Posts: 638 From: Vermont, USA Registered: 03-12-2003 |
I'm a bit confused. I did two labs but I have no way of actually telling it I completed them. ------------------ |
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SSquared Member Posts: 654 From: Pacific Northwest Registered: 03-22-2005 |
It was VERY confusing. I went through the whole lab and clicked on "End Lab Now", or something like that. You will then be taken to a survey/evaluation page. I thought I'd get some confirmation e-mail within a few minutes, so I'd know it all went through but I received nothing until sometime the next day. |
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kenman Member Posts: 518 From: Janesville WI Registered: 08-31-2006 |
insane poet There is a place (if you are using IE ) that tells you which ones you have completed. You have to have all the security flaws open, I mean security setting right to see it  |
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InsanePoet Member Posts: 638 From: Vermont, USA Registered: 03-12-2003 |
Where is this magical place ken? ------------------ |
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kenman Member Posts: 518 From: Janesville WI Registered: 08-31-2006 |
Log in to MS events, go to virtual labs, and at the bottom there is a tab stating events that I have completed, or registered for or something like that  |
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kenman Member Posts: 518 From: Janesville WI Registered: 08-31-2006 |
Just got the confirmation that they will be sending the DVD. $10.02 to ship it. We will probably see it sometime when support for vista stops |
bennythebear Member Posts: 1225 From: kentucky,usa Registered: 12-13-2003 |
i still don't know where to go to log into msn events. i have completed 2 labs(sort of  ). so what now? ------------------ proverbs 25:7 www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs |
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SSquared Member Posts: 654 From: Pacific Northwest Registered: 03-22-2005 |
Yes. I'm so confused too. If I go to my Web Events page I have nothing in my History, but I have finished a lab and turned in an evaluation. If I select a new Lab and click the button to "View Online", it pre-starts the lab and takes me to some other page. At the bottom is a little drop button which states "Completed Labs". If I click on it, I can see a list of my completed labs. It's listed right there as completed. Should it also be listed in my History? Ken, what did you do to actually finish? I clicked on "End Lab Now" and was taken to the evaluation. Is there some other way to end the lab? Should anything show up in my History? Thanks. |
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kenman Member Posts: 518 From: Janesville WI Registered: 08-31-2006 |
#1, you should get a confirmation that you completed the lab within 24 hours to your email that you registered with. #2, you have to use i.e. and install the active X component - I think the lab wont work without it #3, you have to completely fill out the evaluation. The first time I did the first lab, the eval didn't come up right Then log in to the events with your microsoft stuff and you should have a list of labs that you have registered for. The other thing, is you actually have to do the lab work to get completed, I tried just ending the lab and I did not get the eval either. As to the ones I completed, there are only 2 available for on demand. |
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kenman Member Posts: 518 From: Janesville WI Registered: 08-31-2006 |
Guess what, just got an email from MS that the item is on indefinite backorder :< |
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steveth45 Member Posts: 536 From: Eugene, OR, USA Registered: 08-10-2005 |
quote: Visual Studio 2005 Standard Edition It's in stock at Amazon.com for only $249. They also list 14 other companies where you can order it online, and they are all in stock, too. Apparently, Microsoft is the only company that can't seem to get ahold of their own product. I wonder how many devs at the company are stuck using Visual Studio 2003, since they can't seem to keep 2005 in stock. </sarcasm>
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bennythebear Member Posts: 1225 From: kentucky,usa Registered: 12-13-2003 |
they prob'ly gave away like 100 copies, and prob'ly 20,000 people tested the stupid crap for them. ------------------ proverbs 25:7 www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs |
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kenman Member Posts: 518 From: Janesville WI Registered: 08-31-2006 |
Heh, Guess what I got yesterday. A large package from microsoft with Visual Studio in it. My order process is still on back order. Well it came, pretty box and all with a big sticker "not for resale" So I guess i'm stuck with it. I have found that Microsoft usually delivers on what they say when it comes to free stuff. |
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SSquared Member Posts: 654 From: Pacific Northwest Registered: 03-22-2005 |
No way! That's fantastic! I still haven't done my second LabCast. Mainly because I am still confused since it doesn't seem like it took my first one. After you mentioned about the backorder, I just plain gave up. I've been in that 'indefinite' situation before and never received the stuff from MS. |
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kenman Member Posts: 518 From: Janesville WI Registered: 08-31-2006 |
Go for it, the worst thing that happens is you learn a little about VB. For just a few hours of work, hey not a bad version either. |
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bennythebear Member Posts: 1225 From: kentucky,usa Registered: 12-13-2003 |
so am i suppose to be getting an email from them, or is there a link i'm suppose to click? ------------------ proverbs 25:7 www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs |
bwoogie Member Posts: 380 From: kansas usa Registered: 03-12-2005 |
i just took my first labcast. i'm going to take the next one when i get home from church. ------------------ |
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kenman Member Posts: 518 From: Janesville WI Registered: 08-31-2006 |
About two or three days after completing the second cast you will get an email, |
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bwoogie Member Posts: 380 From: kansas usa Registered: 03-12-2005 |
sweet, i'll be looking for that email then. i just finished my 2nd one. ------------------ |
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bennythebear Member Posts: 1225 From: kentucky,usa Registered: 12-13-2003 |
it's been a over a week and the only email i got was the thank you for participating thing, and one that had a link to ordering the visual studio TRIAL edition. ------------------ proverbs 25:7 www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs |
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bwoogie Member Posts: 380 From: kansas usa Registered: 03-12-2005 |
.....yeah, uh... still waiting for that email... ------------------ |
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bennythebear Member Posts: 1225 From: kentucky,usa Registered: 12-13-2003 |
same here. i can't find a phone number to call them about it either. anyone else have any luck with them? ------------------ proverbs 25:7 www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs |
jestermax Member Posts: 1064 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: 06-21-2006 |
<hijack> this thread was related to VS2005 so it saves me from starting a new one. has anyone installed SP1 to a full copy of VS2005? the MS page said it needed 6 gigs of space which i certainly don't have left. i have a copy installed and to use Ogre 1.4 i need SP1 so does anyone have any detailed info on it? as in how much space it ACTUALLY requires on top of the install? ------------------ |
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bennythebear Member Posts: 1225 From: kentucky,usa Registered: 12-13-2003 |
i wish i could help you but i can't. i did however finally get an email from them today, hopefully i'll be ordering my copy today. i think you to mark that your employed as a developer somewhere, if you put student i don't think you get anything. ------------------ proverbs 25:7 www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs |
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jestermax Member Posts: 1064 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: 06-21-2006 |
oh, no. i wasn't talking about getting a copy from them; i have a copy (hence the hijack tags ). in order to use Ogre 1.4 i need to upgrade to SP1 which i can download but i'm sure if i install it, it will be the demise of my laptop but i was wondering if anyone knew for sure </hijack> ------------------ |
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SSquared Member Posts: 654 From: Pacific Northwest Registered: 03-22-2005 |
I have SP1 and some special SP for Vista. Others in my office have also installed SP1. I don't know how much disk space is actually needed. |
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bennythebear Member Posts: 1225 From: kentucky,usa Registered: 12-13-2003 |
maybe someone would be willing to install it on a dummy computer, look at the hard drive usage, and then install sp1 and look at the hard drive usage???(hint hint) i would do it for you but i don't have a copy yet  . i know you wasn't talking about getting a copy from them, i was just posting my good news . i'm really excited to be getting it, i don't care if it takes 2-3 months to get it. a full version of vs 2005 standard for a little over $10, that's great! plus with all the online books i have thanks to devry, i'll be set. also now that i've gotten a schedule/priority list thing made to help me out with managing everything i have to do i should even be able to spend some time on personal projects. right now life is going pretty great for me(God rocks!!!). ------------------ proverbs 25:7 www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs |
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InsanePoet Member Posts: 638 From: Vermont, USA Registered: 03-12-2003 |
Yeah i got the email and i ordered it... 9.50 s&h... backordered... probably see it sometime after Microsoft goes under. ------------------ |
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SSquared Member Posts: 654 From: Pacific Northwest Registered: 03-22-2005 |
I finally took my 2nd lab. I'll see what happens next. |
MastaLlama Member Posts: 671 From: Houston, TX USA Registered: 08-10-2005 |
why not just use these: http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/downloads/default.aspx They really are free... |
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kenman Member Posts: 518 From: Janesville WI Registered: 08-31-2006 |
I got an email saying it was back ordered and got my copy 2 days after the backorder email. It still shows back ordered in the status. Oh well. I have had mine for weeks now |
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SSquared Member Posts: 654 From: Pacific Northwest Registered: 03-22-2005 |
mastallama, the Express Editions are great and I have been using C# Express for about 1.5 years. Some of the reasons I prefer to use the Standard Edition are listed earlier in this thread. With Standard you can have solutions spanning multiple language types. I use both C++ and C# and with the Standard Edition I can have a single solution containing all the projects. Standard allows you to create MFC applications, which I do use. Standard allows for various plug-ins. There are many other features offered in the Standard Edition which are missing in the Express Editions. I totally agree, though. Download the Express Editions. They are really terrific and I'm surprised at how many features they actually contain. But if given the chance to receive the Standard Edition at such a good price, then I prefer the Standard Edition. |
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bwoogie Member Posts: 380 From: kansas usa Registered: 03-12-2005 |
hmm, you dont have to actually have to do that part of the lab where you do what they taught you do you? cause i didnt. oh well. if they never send me an email then i guess im just one less customer. ------------------ |
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SSquared Member Posts: 654 From: Pacific Northwest Registered: 03-22-2005 |
I got my e-mail today! Yeah! Boy was I surprised. I thought they somehow lost my first Lab and thought I had never completed it. I will create my order tomorrow. |
evdude Member Posts: 135 From: Earth Orbit Registered: 03-14-2007 |
I don't have a job, so, in the 'virtual labs registration' page, what do I put in the Company/Organization Name * Business Phone Number (Area Code - Number - Extension): * field? EDIT: never mind, I did it. ------------------ [This message has been edited by evdude (edited May 30, 2007).] |
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bwoogie Member Posts: 380 From: kansas usa Registered: 03-12-2005 |
woot! i got my email too finally! i was about to forget about it! i just sent off my order! yippie! ------------------ |
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SSquared Member Posts: 654 From: Pacific Northwest Registered: 03-22-2005 |
Glad to hear it. It's easy to forget about it. I noticed it took 10 days from the time I took my 2nd lab to the time I received the e-mail. I still don't even see anything listed when I go into my account. So it's just a confusing system. But in the end, we all seem to be receiving the e-mail. Just gotta be patient. |
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bwoogie Member Posts: 380 From: kansas usa Registered: 03-12-2005 |
hey, i dont think i thanked you for showing us this in the first place! so thanks! btw, i also got vb.net 2003 a long time ago by watching videos too. ------------------ |
GUMP Member Posts: 1335 From: Melbourne, FL USA Registered: 11-09-2002 |
Just received my copy. Thanks for the alert. |
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SSquared Member Posts: 654 From: Pacific Northwest Registered: 03-22-2005 |
And I have received mine today! Yipppeeeee!!!!! |
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kenman Member Posts: 518 From: Janesville WI Registered: 08-31-2006 |
After they give away all these copies, I got an email today stating they are adding data querying to Visual Basic. Wow, that will get all ya to fork over a couple hundred to get orcas! |
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SSquared Member Posts: 654 From: Pacific Northwest Registered: 03-22-2005 |
I know. .NET 3.0 and 3.5 are here before most people are even taking advantage of 2.0. My personal development is based on two things: 1) Work-driven. Is it something I can use for work? Will it be beneficial in my job? 2) Can others use it without having to install anything else? Right now, the Orcas is no to both (except for maybe the Communication Framework). I mean, how many people do you know even have .NET 2.0? Let alone 3.0 or 3.5? In any case, I have been reading up on the new technology features so I at least have some background when I am ready to move forward. |
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bwoogie Member Posts: 380 From: kansas usa Registered: 03-12-2005 |
It came today! I paid 10$ for that? it should have only cost 2$  nice case though i guess.. I guess its worth it haha.------------------ |
Sparkling Member Posts: 36 From: Oregon Registered: 11-06-2006 |
It's true. I got a copy of Visual Studio 2005 standard also! I gave it to my son so he can learn programming. -Sparkling ------------------ |
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bennythebear Member Posts: 1225 From: kentucky,usa Registered: 12-13-2003 |
i haven't even been able to use it yet, my laptop only had 128mb of ram and froze up when i tried running it. but now i've got 384mb so i should be good to go...i was wondering if anyone knew a way i could get a copy of disc 3 for the msdn library? i lost mine, and it would be nice to be able to use all the reference material again. anybody??? ------------------ proverbs 25:7 www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs |
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bwoogie Member Posts: 380 From: kansas usa Registered: 03-12-2005 |
just so you know, you dont have to install the msdn library, though it's faster on your drive, the entire msdn library can be viewed online. ------------------ |