spade89 Member Posts: 561 From: houston,tx Registered: 11-28-2006 |
i came across this story of a man i heard about it's one of the most if not the most amazing stories i ever heard this story might just change your life too... here is the link: http://www.spiritlessons.com/dreams_and_visions/Dilivered_from_the_powers_of_Darkness_by_Emmanuel_Eni.htm it's kind of long but it really is worth it . and i believe it's all true. ------------------ Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. |
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spade89 Member Posts: 561 From: houston,tx Registered: 11-28-2006 |
how come nobody replied ?? has anyone even bothered to start reading it?? if you find the beging boring then scroll down and see the middle and last parts of this mans testimony specially how they work against Christians... anyways i thought it was a good idea to share this story with u guys guess i was wrong... ------------------ Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. |
leet hacker Member Posts: 118 From: Hobbiton, Shire, Middle-Earth Registered: 07-30-2007 |
quote: i guess you weren't wrong...  that was interesting. the parts about the "meetings in the sea" were weird, and so was the part where Jesus (i'm assuming that was Him) took him apart and cleansed him. i wouldn't be surprised at all if he was making those up. however, it could be true.some of the other stuff on the main site added to my doubt: "23 minutes in hell", "heaven is so real" (where the author supposedly visited heaven and hell), "a divine revelation of hell", and "a divine revelation of heaven". also, there was "hell is real, i know, i went there". this person named jennifer perez was raised in a christian home, backslid, got on drugs, and died (supposedly). she went to hell, but God supposedly gave her another chance. i know that is a hoax. so that added even more to my doubt. but the article this thread is centered aroung was an interesting read, though. ------------------ [This message has been edited by leet hacker (edited October 01, 2007).] |
CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
Thanks for the kinda-sorta-summary Leet hacker. I definitely don't feel like reading that stuff right now. ------------------ "Oh, bother," said the Borg. "We've assimilated Pooh." Open source, open mind. |
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Lava Member Posts: 1905 From: Registered: 01-26-2005 |
quote: I think it was the subject title.... |
Mene-Mene Member Posts: 1398 From: Fort Wayne, IN, USA Registered: 10-23-2006 |
Yeah, the story title did kinda turn me off. But I've now read some of it, and I'm very doubtful this is true. First there is no Google record whatsoever that in August 1982 in Lagos, anything about a duplex. Secondly, He see Jesus, Heaven, and Hell, and becomes half-spirit? It sounds like a story with good intentions. One of the most unbelievable was his "ability" to change from man to woman. This contradicts the Bible clearly.
quote: This seems to contradict common happennings, and doesn't seem to follow the Bible much at all. Although he does say some accurate stuff, I would tread VERY carefully. ------------------ |
ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
I'm with Mene on this one. I started reading it and eventually threw it into the "extrabiblical" spiritual tall-tale folder in my head. ------------------ |
samw3 Member Posts: 542 From: Toccoa, GA, USA Registered: 08-15-2006 |
Sounds like someone had an extra spicy bean burrito with their greasy slice of pepperoni pizza before bed. Either that or some of them *special* brownies. EDIT: @spade: btw, why in the world do you think this is true?! ------------------ Check out my CCN SpeedGame 2 Blog [This message has been edited by samw3 (edited October 01, 2007).] |
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spade89 Member Posts: 561 From: houston,tx Registered: 11-28-2006 |
it's amazing how quick you are to dismiss the whole thing i mean which part of what he said is impossible?? if he wanted to make up a story why would he make up a story like this it's likely that many people laughed/mocked at him not only that many people didn't believe him and some of the stuff he said he did before he was saved was pretty bad why would he make up stuff like that?? even with good intentions this man probably knows that the BIBLE tells us that GOD is not glorified in lies. if you have heard about/met anyone involved in voodoo and dark magic like that you wouldn't have a hard time believing this story. just as GOD gives you power to do good when you work for him the devil gives you some of his evil power when you sell your soul to him in exchange and there is lots of demonic ritual involved as you can read and it's wise to read the whole thing before jumping to disbelief. and as far as the queen of the coast i belive she is real and i have heard about her from someone else too as the matter of fact i think someone told me that the picture that catholics/orthodox people use to represent mary is somehow related to the queen of the cost moreover most of the stories you hear related to the queen of the coast and stuff like this sounds like a movie because most of the movies that have dark stuff in them are infact demonic. and i haven't found anything that contradicts the BIBLE in that story and i wouldn't be surprised if he didn't show up on google the man is nigerian and he lives in nigeria(3rd world) and he may not be a frequent internet user and there may be more stories like his you have not heard lots of stuff like this happens you know. and don't forget if the experience of this man is true then what he is revealing about the workings of the enemy and how you should defend yourself is useful too. i don't see any reason to doubt .just because something is supernatural it doesn't mean you should doubt it. have you ever experienced something supernatural yourselves? and the man is very detailed in what he said it is easy to disprove his story just by asking the people he mentioned/checking out his story this man is quite famous where he is from it's likely that people have tried to disprove his story and failed. ------------------ Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. |
zookey Member Posts: 1902 From: Great Falls, Montana, USA Registered: 04-28-2002 |
quote: Hehe you don't know a lot about mob-mentality and cult behaivor do you? (EDIT: I meant that in a joking sense not a looking-down-on-you-sense, realized it could have come off that way) I didn't read the article honestly (no offense, but I am tired of 'the sky is falling topics' when the Bible says not to worry about the evil doers out there--God is in charge and I am comfortable with that) but there is a LOT of people who claim psycho crap and somehow get followers, example: A) A prominent 80's and 90's televangelist was on TV recently claiming he got a vision from God stating that we are all in Hell right now (that is, Earth is Hell)---he has believers that follow him. B) Another televangelist, one whom is still on the airwaves, claimed there is 3 Heavens on TV recently, with just a subtle hint that if you send him money you get into the top Heaven---he also said there is no such thing as Hell as we know it, just that bad people go to the 'budget quality' version of Heaven where good people go to one of the better two. He has followers. C) Jim Jones, nuff' said. D) David Koresh (SP?), nuff' said. E) Heaven's Gate, nuff' said. There is no shortage of stupid people willing to override logic and follow a maniac, and there is no shortage of maniacs out there vying for control of the stupid people. So, there is a HUGE incentive for people to lie--Jesus himself talked about it in the Bible where he said that people would try to claim his name but don't immediately believe it just because they can say the right combination of 'buzz words' that make them sound right. ------------------ [This message has been edited by zookey (edited October 02, 2007).] |
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spade89 Member Posts: 561 From: houston,tx Registered: 11-28-2006 |
apparently you didn't read it zookey this guy is nigerian ,he became an orphan and this girl got him to move to lagos(the capital) promising him he would be rich and long story short he founds out she was involved in voodoo stuff then one thing leads to another he knows too much so he had no choice but to get into the whole thing then lots of things happen as he does more enchantements and stuff he gains more power and at some point the queen of the coast contacts him and lots of thins happen he even at one point meets satan and when one of the people there talks about JESUS he falls down from his chair and warns them not to mention that name again they even call heaven "that place" and GOD "the righteous one" but lots of things happen he starts working against Christians he even tells how they work they even come into Chruches and decieve people and tempt them or distract them and try to make lukewarmers in Churches and he reveals lots of things about how the enemy makes lots of things to distract people from the things of eternity and GOD like fashion modern trends etc... also how they cause disasters and stuff but long story short at one point GOD calls him by the name only his mother (who died when he was a kid) called him by and somehow(in the spirit i think) angels take him to a place where he meets JESUS and JESUS tells him lots of stuff and to testify to what happened to him and that that was his last chance and shows him lots of things then he returns has his struggles and starts testifying. and you know the stuff about the under sea head quarters made me think of what is said in revelation about what will happen after judgement : quote: ------------------ Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. |
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Lava Member Posts: 1905 From: Registered: 01-26-2005 |
I hate to be so blunt...but what is the point of these debates\civil discussions\etc on religious topics? At the end of the day aren't we all going to still have the same beliefs? I'd like to see an example where anyone on here has been convinced of someone else's opinion when they already feel strongly about their own. Even now, I am throwing out my own opinion, but it's so that I may understand better of what I see as pointlessness. And don't get me wrong... *First, isn't about the original post of the thread, I may be doing a little hijacking but the thread seems to be already digressing. *Second, I am not referring to witnessing to someone or having a debate of a Christian vs. non-Christian, because I believe if that a Christian is acting in God's will when witnessing to this person and if it's God's will for that person to be saved, it will happen, whether it's during the discussion or it's just a seed. *Thirdly, I also am not in favor of censoring someone's opinion, I'm not saying "you should guys shouldn't tell your opinion because I don't like it", just to make that clear. But...when it's between two believers and at the end of all of it, nothing about their viewpoint has changed, and it's gone past the state of "ok this is my opinion, this is yours...", when no one cares anymore to see the other person's view and theirs won't change.... What's the point? [This message has been edited by Lava (edited October 02, 2007).] |
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spade89 Member Posts: 561 From: houston,tx Registered: 11-28-2006 |
there have been times(if i remember correctly) when i have been convinced that what i said was wrong/contradictory and i remeber also compromising on some things but the whole point is to share our opinions/comments on these issues but i don't think we should argue just to win but beause we believe what we say is true. in short lava the whole point is to share information/knowledge(or should be if it's not) and not to win anything. and i don't think we were doing much of an argument in this thread everyone thought the story was a lie mene-mene asked me why i believed what i believed and i replied ......... ------------------ Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. |
