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Natural Attraction – bwoogie

bwoogie

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Hey guys and girl(s). I was at work today, and this thought just popped into my head..
Even though most of us are at least 20ish and mature enough, I'm gonna try and keep this as G rated as possible.
God made us attracted to the opposite sex. But how much of that attraction that we experience is actually from God? What did he intend for us to, uhh, look at/for in the opposite sex? I mean, of course you've got to go waaaaay deeper than just looks, but looks sure do help! I guess to be blunt, did God intend for us (men) to be attracted to a woman's figure? The bible says multiple times "She was pleasing to look at" so obviously God isn't against good looks, he created them in the first place. I know he would much rather us marry someone who is dirt ugly and living 100% for him than the most beautiful person in the world headed for hell. ... My question is, how much and what of the attraction is from God and what is just lust in our minds?

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zookey

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I guess one way to put it is that you know you are crossing a line if

A) You get to the point that you treat humans as nothing but good looks--in other words demoting a human to nothing but a piece of meat which is what things like porn tend to do (I know this isn't about porn--but I am using an example here).

B) Searching for good looks and sexual attraction becomes your God, in other words it is all you think about all day and don't care about anything else and, if some one you think looks good rejects you, you don't consider their rejection because you are too obsessed with meeting your own wants.

Either of those you would be at an unhealthy point--short of that I think you would be in the clear but a good way to get more answers is to ask God directly---he won't always give you an answer the way you are expecting it to come but he does always answer--and you can usually tell when his answer is being presented to you regardless of what form it is coming in---LOL sorry if I didn't help too much I hope this does tho!
Josh

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Mene-Mene

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I think its natural to be attracted to beautiful women, but what make a woman beautiful if you get to know her is her spirit.

In this order:
Spirit: God-given part of you, it is him in you.
Soul: Your mind, will and emotions.
Body: Need I explain, your body.

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goop2

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Well satanists tend to be more attracted to ugly witches than the hot girl,
so..

I guess the answer really depends on the individual person. I'm not attracted to looks like most people. I wouldn't be attracted to an augly person, but I don't find beauty to be as much a factor. Actually I COULDN'T live with someone like that. I would rather be with an average person as far as looks, but its really the type of person that I find most attractive. I guess I'm different from most guys.

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Tonnyx

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I was reading in Proverbs the other day, "Like a gold ring in a pig's snout is a beautiful woman without discretion."

Gold ring: nice, well-crafted, valuable, etc.
Pig's snout: not the proper use of a valuable thing.

There's nothing wrong with beauty; it's beauty used wrongly, beauty used to exploit, cause lust, and so on, that's a bad thing.

So....to follow the verse's logic,

Woman's beauty: good thing, created by God, etc.
Woman who parades her body indiscreetly: not the proper use of a good & valuable thing

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SSquared

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Remember, too, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder." Each of us find beauty in different ways. One person likes blondes, another brunettes, and another reds.

I believe it is important to be attracted to your mate. It would be very difficult to be in a relationship without physical attraction. I do believe, even if you are not initially attracted, you can find that attraction through spending time and getting to know one another.

There is nothing wrong with attraction or thinking someone is beautiful. Thank the Lord for it! But I do suggest you pray and ask to see women through God's eyes. This may help give a healthier view of beauty.

ArchAngel

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beauty, in it's base form, is God's way of hardwiring us to find mates with superior genetics.
you better believe God made us attracted to a woman's figure.

It is a good for a man to bite his lip and point to the bed when he sees the curves of his wifes. (curves, not curve. think hourglass, not bowling ball. unless your thinking 2 bowling balls.)
if I may quote scripture.
" 7 Your stature is like that of the palm,
and your breasts like clusters of fruit.

8 I said, "I will climb the palm tree;
I will take hold of its fruit."
May your breasts be like the clusters of the vine,
the fragrance of your breath like apples, "
Song of Songs 7:7-8.
you see, God wants us to like boobies.


lusting is defined by Merriam Webster as to have a "sexual rage."
appreciating beauty is one thing, but feeding a sexual desire would be lust.


now, for me, I would never date a women I didn't find hot.
not happening.
just as a I wouldn't date a women whose personality I can't stand, or is morally devoid.


now excuse me, I'm going to sing Baby Got Back.
if you know the tune, sing along.

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InsanePoet

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My understanding is that things like this become sinful if misapplied.

Sex is good, inside the context of marriage. Sex outside of marriage is a misapplication.

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goop2

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I can never read anything from SoS without laughing. Some of his analogies.. Well I suppose if its in the Bible.. There are things I found in that particular book that I found.. er.. enlightening? Of course I wouldn't discuss them right out because I don't want someone to complain about it or anything

Btw AA, I love your illustration. That was wonderful.

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Jari

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Well, some food may taste good even delicious but you can eat it with lusting or enjoying. It's a matter of where heart is attached to and what comes first, is it the taste of the food or the purpose of the food to feed the body.
We can read lot about this from the NT. (Mat 5:28, Rom 13:9, 1Co 10:6, Jas 4:1 and so on)

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Lazarus

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quote:
Originally posted by ArchAngel:
now excuse me, I'm going to sing Baby Got Back.
if you know the tune, sing along.


Sing along - and get in big trouble with your parents... yeah. Don't try this at home, anyone.

Plenty of good answers in this thread, so I won't comment further.

bwoogie

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Yeah, I was originally going to post about Solomon but I forgot about it. Thanks for bringing that up, but still, things are different these days. If you wrote that to your lover you would (in most cases) get the crap slapped out of you. :O

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Jari

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Arch... To be straight, I don't like what you just said. Please consider this.

quote:
Originally posted by ArchAngel:

if I may quote scripture.
" 7 Your stature is like that of the palm,
and your breasts like clusters of fruit.

8 I said, "I will climb the palm tree;
I will take hold of its fruit."
May your breasts be like the clusters of the vine,
the fragrance of your breath like apples, "
Song of Songs 7:7-8.
you see, God wants us to like boobies.


No He doesn't, that is lusting. You see we don't marry in heaven but are like angels in there and that is the peaceful kingdom of heaven Jesus was talking about that is not eating and drinking either but joy in holy spirit.
But because God knew what you think about boobies arch there is a parable like that telling us about God's great mercy and love.

References: Mar 12:25, Mat 6:10, Joh 14:27, Rom 14:17

I hope you see the point which is that God would never encourage us to enjoy on earthly things in the message of His word. The Bible is for us so that we know the other side that there is. We know from our nature the desires and pleasures of the flesh but Bible tells us about the other thing and that is spirit.

God bless.


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1Jo 2:9-10 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. 10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.
Joh 17:26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.

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InsanePoet

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Romance and sex are created by God. God created many "earthly" things that are good and to be enjoyed. The point where they become sinful is when they are misapplied and taken out of context.

To be honest Jarl, the verses you gave don't make much sense in this context, aside from saying something about the "Kingdom of Heaven"

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Brandon

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I'll second what insanepoet said, and add that God created romance, attraction, sex, etc... that ENTIRE process was all His idea. And He wants us to enjoy those things as He intended (in marriage) Lust means strong desire, that's all. It's ok to have a strong desire for your wife. The main thing is for both husband and wife to keep God as their #1... keeping Him as the center of their marriage.

Also, this may be off point somewhat, but Jesus didn't only die for our soul, He died for our entire being, spirit, soul, AND body, we will live in resurrected bodies forever, not as spirits but in physical bodies, in a physical universe.

But anyways, I'm trying to say this as softly as possible... I don't want anyone to think that I'm trying to start a flame or anything...

Peace and Blessings bro's and sis'

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Jari

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Well I think and hope that this is most constructive to be discussed without trying to directly answer the question with one simple line or verse from the Bible. But this like all matters should be studied in the context of the whole Bible starting from the roots to the reason of living.

What is most important that I was saying is that two wifes is too many but what about two loves? How do you define these (what is to love) is good to ponder but these verses should speak to us:

For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication: That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour; Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God: That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified. For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness.
(1Th 4:3-7)

Blessings.

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1Jo 2:9-10 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. 10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.
Joh 17:26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.

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Jari

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quote:
Originally posted by insanepoet:

To be honest Jarl, the verses you gave don't make much sense in this context, aside from saying something about the "Kingdom of Heaven"

What version do you read? The context of those verses was broad...

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1Jo 2:9-10 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. 10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.
Joh 17:26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.

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ArchAngel

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I'm not exactly sure what your pushing towards, Jari, but my stance is still that a husband and wife should enjoy eachother, sexually.

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Jari

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Yeah I have no doupt that God would have not meant it to be like that, because otherwise God would have given us guite trouble some bodies for fulfilling the commandment in (Gen 9:1). For a limited time Gen 18:12.

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1Jo 2:9-10 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. 10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.
Joh 17:26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.

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