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Saturday and Sunday – Lazarus

Lazarus

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Are there any Christians here that don't work on Sunday - or on Saturday?
Tonnyx

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I generally try not to work on Sunday. Overall, I try to keep the day "different". The main things I refrain from doing are dishes, and projects that I'm working on for other people. The dishes are a pretty big deal to me, because I have to do them every day of the week. So on Saturday, I push to get most or all the dishes I can get done, and it's a huge relief not to do them for one day.

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Lazarus

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Because Jesus was resurrected on a Sunday, right?
goop2

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No. According to Warsong it was either Monday or Tuesday. I would say why.. if I could find it.

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Lazarus

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Back ontopic, Goop.
Mene-Mene

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Its because of the Jewish law of the Sabbath.
BTW Goop, its because he died on Friday, and resurected 3 days later which would be either Monday, or Tuesday depending upon when he died (Early morning or late night).

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HanClinto

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Mene: Actually, it was on a Sunday that He was raised. IIRC, "3 days" meant something a little different back then according to when days started/ended in Jewish culture.

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Luke 24:1-2 (NIV):
On the first day of the week, very early in the morning, the women took the spices they had prepared and went to the tomb. They found the stone rolled away from the tomb, 3but when they entered, they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus.

The "first day of the week" was and is Sunday.

They talk about it more in Acts as well.

goop2

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Well I knew it was Friday.. There was something else that I was trying to remember.. probably the info with which I found that.

Out of curiosity, where does that info come from?

In an attempt to keep this on topic I have to wash dishes on Sunday, and I prefer not to work on Saturday

[edit]In that case why not Thursday? I'm confused.[/edit]
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Lazarus

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quote:
Originally posted by HanClinto:
Mene: Actually, it was on a Sunday that He was raised. IIRC, "3 days" meant something a little different back then according to when days started/ended in Jewish culture.

The "first day of the week" was and is Sunday.

They talk about it more in Acts as well.


And many Christians observe Sunday as the Sabbath(ie no work) because of that, right?

Calin

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I try to keep it different as well. However at the end of the day I do usually get bored doing nothing and will prepare for the things I have to do next day.
Calin

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quote:
Originally posted by Lazarus:
And many Christians observe Sunday as the Sabbath(ie no work) because of that, right?


Will you get to the chase, what's your point? Or it is like a poll? =]

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Lazarus

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Why do we protest at the 10 commandments being removed from courtrooms and public places - at prayer being banned in football stadiums and schools - when many Christians do not even observe the 4th commandment?

"Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath unto the Lord.
You shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter.
Your male servant or your female servant or your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you.
For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth and the sea, and rested on the seventh day.
Therefore, the Lord blessed the Sabbath day, and made it holy."

And why don't Christians observe this commandment? Calin, that is why I asked about the particular preferences of people on this forum.

Calin

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If you love Jesus you will do what he did on Sabbath which is respect Sabbath but not have an 'absolutist' approach on it (put it above everything else), the Bible says Jesus is the Lord of Sabbath (Mark 2: 23-28). I do agree many Christians ignore Sabbath which they shouldn't. I wouldn't agree that ignoring Sabbath by itself is a sin though, noting in the NT indicates that.

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HanClinto

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Ah, now we're getting down to brass tacks.

So much of this comes down to one's hermeneutic -- the presuppositions which one takes into how they read scripture. For instance, a dispensationalist-answer would say something like the following:
"We are only to follow commandments that are reiterated in the New Testament (since that is our current dispensation) -- the Sabbath rules aren't reiterated in the New Testament, so therefore they don't apply to us."

However, some people tend to go the other way and say that if something isn't explicitly said as being finished in the NT, then we still need to follow it. This is how you get people (such as the 7th Day Adventists) believing that the Sabbath still needs to be held on the last day of the week (Saturday) rather than Sunday.

Another group of people (I'm sure there are more that I'm leaving out here) are more covenant/reformed in thinking. This is built off of a belief that Jesus fulfilled certain parts of the law by His death, but that doesn't mean that the old is completely done away with, but rather that the Old Testament legalisms were action-pictures for what was to come in Christ. So we are to look towards the New-Testament counterparts to Old Testament things. It's not a 1-to-1 correspondence between everything, but there are some very close parallels. For instance, we once had passover, we now have communion. Circumcision used to be the visible symbol of membership in God's people, but now it's baptism (not just with water, but also with the Holy Spirit). And carrying that over, while we once had the 7th day temple sacrifices, we now have a 1st day gathering of believers with corporate worship in church. So many things that applied to the OT sabbath apply to the NT church, but certainly not everything (such as the sacrifice of animals or burning of incense).

Still, even within reformed/covenant circles, there is still debate as to what is carried over from the OT, and there are varying principles that people use. Some people wonder how much Romans 14 applies to the Sabbath (many people say that it only applies to the religious feasts, and not to the Sabbath):

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One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. For none of us lives to himself alone and none of us dies to himself alone. If we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord.

I'm currently not sure where I stand on all of this exactly, but for now I'm trying to follow more of a Romans 14 model, and be to be more fully convinced about it in my own mind. After all, it's unto the Lord that we observe any of His laws, and not unto ourselves or for showing off to other people. As Tonnyx said, we try to rest from our vocational labor, but we're still trying to work through all of what we think (regarding going out to eat, shopping, etc). Ultimately though, any Sabbath rest should be an act of worship unto the Lord, and we need to look to Him.

--clint

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ArchAngel

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I don't work any days of the week. I just surf CCN.

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steveth45

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I'm primarily interested in the example Jesus set. When necessary, he worked on the Sabbath. However, it is in our best interest to take at least one day off each week and focus more on God than our day to day work. "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath." My understanding, is that it is both symbolic of entering into God's rest and it is practical for our own health and physical well being. It was instituted as a benefit for us, not a religious shackle as the Pharisees had made it.

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Calin

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quote:
Originally posted by ArchAngel:
I don't work any days of the week. I just surf CCN.


We already knew that =]

bwoogie

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i dont work (at a job) on the weekends.. i do usually spend my weekends working on projects at home, though such as coding... but since i dont get paid for that i dont call it work, its something i enjoy.

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