windrider Member Posts: 10 From: Pearl,MS, United States Registered: 12-26-2004 |
I was always told that if you ask God for forgivness that you would go to heaven that he would forgive you. If he does forgive us, why is there a hell? ------------------ |
Max Member Posts: 523 From: IA Registered: 09-19-2004 |
God gives us the free choice to love him and accept him, or to deny him. He created everything, he makes the rules. People that don't believe in him/ have faith in him usually don't live the typical "Christian" lives. Ultimately, Hell/ the Lake of Fire is the eventual death of Satan and everyone that follows him (AKA anyone not with God). Are you worried about something? Or just inquiring? ------------------ |
Simon_Templar Member Posts: 330 From: Eau Claire, WI USA Registered: 10-25-2004 |
there are two places in the bible which people commonly refer to as "hell". The idea most people have of hell is somewhat confuddled between the two. However, most people, when they refer to hell, mean a place of eternal punnishment. In the bible this place is refered to as the lake of fire, basicly an eternaly burning garbage dump (in greek Gehenna). The bible specificly states that this place was prepared for the devil, his angels and the beasts of revelation (anti-christ and false prophet). Those people who end up going there will only do so because they ultimately chose to side with Satan and thus they share his fate. ------------------ |
windrider Member Posts: 10 From: Pearl,MS, United States Registered: 12-26-2004 |
I am worried that I might end up in hell becase of things that I have done. I do not understand alot anymore. I worry that I am always making bad choices. ------------------ |
Simon_Templar Member Posts: 330 From: Eau Claire, WI USA Registered: 10-25-2004 |
Windrider, I know how you feel, I've been through times in my life when I questioned all my beliefs. Most people do go through that time when they are becoming an adult.. up to this point you've mostly gone on what your parents believed and now your getting to the point where your beliefs have to become your own. At least thats how it was with me. This is one of the reasons that one of my all time favorite verses in the bible is where Jesus says "all who seek shall find". Thats a promise.. whatever you seek, that is what you will find. So just make sure you seek the truth. As for making bad choices, I know all about that too (of course I think I know everything ) I've made alot of bad choices in my life, repeatedly giving in to temptations, and often feeling condemned as a result. There were many times when I worried about wether I was going to make the final cut, if you know what I mean ------------------ |
Max Member Posts: 523 From: IA Registered: 09-19-2004 |
to put it in a short view, if you believe in Christ Jesus and accept him into your heart, God will forgive EVERYTHING that you have done. That is so reassuring to me. No matter what you do, if you can honestly repent it and go back to Jesus, he will always take you back; You are his chid. Thanks for clearing me up Simon, I didn't make them clear. I've worried about making the cut as well, I mean, what if I become too sinful, or evil? Then I come back to the verses, especially John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave His only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him, shall not perish, but have everlasting life. I'm adding another perspective, and yes, everyone at some point doubts and worries. I hope you end up where it makes you content. I have. ------------------ |
goop2 Member Posts: 1059 From: Registered: 06-30-2004 |
What has happened in the past is done. Just ask forgivenes and forget it. Ask someone about the "ABCs of... of something... I forgot what it was, its in the On Course magazine.anyone here know what it was? As far as I can remember its sumthin like: 1. Ask forgivenes ------------------ I dont like siggys. They are to hard to think up :( |
CheeseStorm Member Posts: 521 From: Registered: 11-28-2004 |
The past cannot hurt you, but dwelling on it can. As long as we try to leave the world a bit better on our way out, I don't see how we could end up in a hell, not that I believe in it anyways. Maybe meditation would help for sorting out thoughts and decisions? |
goop2 Member Posts: 1059 From: Registered: 06-30-2004 |
C is confess. confess your sins. ------------------ I dont like siggys. They are to hard to think up :( |
Klumsy Administrator Posts: 1061 From: Port Angeles, WA, USA Registered: 10-25-2001 |
simon answered the initial question good enough, windrider so i'd listen to him. Are you in a local church? do you have some solid christian friends, and some christian role models, people who could mentor you? cheese,
quote: you are right that dwelling on the past can hurt you, and everybody knows many people are a stuck by something in their past, and can't go on living "normally", however even if you don't dwell on something the past can hurt you, like somebody say who suffered and lost a spouse, child, or even had an abortion, who felt they might have dealt with it, but 20 years later after trying to ignore it, pushing it down, something happens that brings everything to the surface and it cripples them emotionally, after all this time. ------------------ |