InsanePoet Member Posts: 638 From: Vermont, USA Registered: 03-12-2003 |
Proof? You sound like France. Ok, i'll prove to you that he uses vulgar languages (not just words, content also). Check ot some of his posts in the 'body piercing' thread. Honestly, whether he is sincere not not (personally, i think he is a troll), these posts are still inappropiate for public display and still need to be deleted. ------------------ |
c h i e f y Member Posts: 415 From: Surrey, United Kingdom Registered: 03-07-2002 |
WHAT? where? is this post 1 or 5? I think I came in half way through  who are we talking about here?------------------ |
rowanseymour Member Posts: 284 From: Belfast, Northern Ireland Registered: 02-10-2001 |
chiefy: see the Pornography thread  insane: klumsy asked for proof that fitta was insincere, that is not desiring to be free, and hadn't started SCF, and I am sure that you will agree that his use of sexually explicit and vulgar language proves nothing. Nothing of what he has said is any worse than an Eminem song. I think the caring and grace-filled responses given by the majority of members here will send a powerful message to any members of the public who are following our discussion. Even if this guy is a troll and having a joke at our expense - what have we lost? So what if we've looked like fools, at least he's heard the gospel. At least other people have seen that as christians we are not embarrassed by foul language and sexuality. I'm sure the prostitutes and tax collectors that Jesus befriended uttered a few profanities in His prescence, but that didn't stop Him being seen in public with them. He gave everybody a chance. However... Fitta: I do think it's descision time for you. You need to respect the wishes of the other members here, and tone down your language. You need to clearly state your intentions. There are many here who want to help you and will gladly correspond with you on a private basis if that's what you'd rather. Grace and Peace, Rowan |
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Christian Member Posts: 400 From: Australia Registered: 09-15-2002 |
I tend to agree with Rowan on this one. I think it's obvious that he is trolling, but I also think that it's a powerful thing to show that we're not ashamed to be who we are, or embarrased if someone says something sexual or rude, as if we need to hide ourselves from the world to survive. In this way, perhaps the testimony of Christ will be evident, and if it finds shallow or thorny ground, then the least that will happen is that he'll realise that he is not achieving anything, and leave. |
ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
some stuff need to be said. and some stuff shouldn't be. I'd probably say no swearing, bleep all the swear words. maybe even replace it witha @!#@$%, or something. Also, try to keep things non-explicit. Gotta eat. FOOODD! ------------------ |
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InsanePoet Member Posts: 638 From: Vermont, USA Registered: 03-12-2003 |
Perhaps you do not understand my point here when someone posts somthing like this "Maybe you're an addict if you enjoy cigarrettes and putting on women too? Are you a worse human if you happen to destroy some window? If god wouldn't have wanted us men to do this he wouldn't have made it so goddamn fun!" Seriously folks, where are the rules in action? I've seen Children come to this site, this kind of trash could cause them to stumble. Seriously, i wouldn't want to come to a 'Christian' site where people are allowed to spew this vomit. And, in case you havn't noticed, this is already a bubble community, which if this stuff goes uncheck, it will pop. ------------------ |
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InsanePoet Member Posts: 638 From: Vermont, USA Registered: 03-12-2003 |
Gospel? Havn't yet heard it preached publically. So, i'll do it. Fitta: So, i'll tell you know that you are a sinner before a holy God, and if you continue the course you have set, you're going to hell. ------------------ |
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Christian Member Posts: 400 From: Australia Registered: 09-15-2002 |
Good point. To be more specific, when you ask God to save your soul, He will give you the Holy Spirit, an experience not confined to, but always including the ability to speak in tongues, a language God gives us to pray with. Additionally, you'll be able to ask God to heal you when you're sick, help you in times of need, and you will enjoy a relationship with your Creator. You'll also live forever. |
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ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
I'm agreement with my homies, InsanePoet and Christian. Fitta, If you are a christian, you got to live up to it. Nobody can alone, but it's something we strive for with God's power. You have been saying somethings that should have not been said. Atleast in the way you said it. It's unacceptable.
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BlazeQ Member Posts: 260 From: USA Registered: 05-11-2002 |
I'm curious as to what the current focus of the Christian Coders site is now. It used to be a gathering place for Christian Coders to fellowship and share knowledge as implied by the name. If it's actually a place to minister to non-Christians, why have Christian in the name? I do not think it can serve both purposes, because while it's doing one it's ignoring the other. BTW I think we should stop calling the troll by his username. It may be swedish but we now know what it means. ------------------ |
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rowanseymour Member Posts: 284 From: Belfast, Northern Ireland Registered: 02-10-2001 |
It seems to me there are two common and very different attitudes to evangelism today: 1. Evangelism is a something done at a given place and time by certain persons in the church who we consider called by God to be evangelists. 2. We are all called to be evangelic, and do it in all our work and play, that is to live our lives as testimonies to the Gospel. I personally subscribe to the second. I want non-christians to see our fellowship. I want them to read our confessions and requests for prayer and help. And if they come here because they need help with something computer related, so be it. I don't see how that prevents us from us sharing advice about software development. The biggest problem on this site has not been people trolling, but the fact that although we agree on 99% of our theology, we spend all day arguing about the 1% we don't agree on. Grace |
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ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
quote: uh, yeah. We don't need to argue on the 99%. We all agree! There is a place for evangelism, and there is a place for fellowship. I'd probably agree with the second attitude. Though I know some people who blow it out of proportion. They would say that you shouldn't be talking with a non-christian unless your evangalizing. The reason we exist is not to witness, but to glorify God. Not try to diminish evangalism, but trying to set priorities straight. ------------------ |
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InsanePoet Member Posts: 638 From: Vermont, USA Registered: 03-12-2003 |
oh btw - if he *is* sincere, then show his speach is wrong by editing his posts. ------------------ |
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BlazeQ Member Posts: 260 From: USA Registered: 05-11-2002 |
I agree with all that you said rowanseymour (if you look, I haven't been in an arguement thread in a long time. I usually read the first couple posts and then go on. I think time can be better spent. The music thread was pretty much just a statement of observations and beliefs. I think we all came out on the same side). I don't think we should have a gated community here. But like IP, I think it should be one that has enforced guidelines in place for those who aren't inclined to act out of love. ------------------ |
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c h i e f y Member Posts: 415 From: Surrey, United Kingdom Registered: 03-07-2002 |
quote: It is not civilised to use obscene language, I disagree with use of expletives - you wouldn't allow it in your own home SURELY, but we are tolerating it in our FORUM? there is no justification for harsh language full stop and I disagree with allowing obscene words partly starred out too apart from that, IMMEDIATE OBJECTION by other members should follow because implied acquiescene by members following, as is chronic on www.blitzbasic.com simply endorses the use of obscene language I have stepped in TIME AFTER TIME on that site following objectionable language to receive ridicule and laughter and to be accused of making a mountain out of a molehill steering clear of obscene language is a fundamental step in civilised and respectful behaviour ------------------ |
