c h i e f y Member Posts: 415 From: Surrey, United Kingdom Registered: 03-07-2002 |
well? would YOU become a priest ? Rebecca FISHER reports in the Surrey HERALD's March 14th issue (2002) in fact the headline reads "Mass exodus of priests leads to severe shortage" 'Father Eric Darwell, priest at St Anne's Church, Chertsey, Surrey praised parishioners for taking over many jobs 'Father Darwell was responding to a warning from the Right Reverand Kieran Conry, Bishop of Arundel that the future of the church 'Father Darwell said "It is the people's church and they should be running the parish, leaving the priest fre to to fulfill his pastoral and spiritual role." 'He warned that young men will not be attracted to the priesthood if they see priests rushed off their feet.' Bishop Conry stated that the diocese could have as few as 27 priests in the year 2020 if DRASTIC action is not taken now Father Darwell replied that he believed the vow of celibacy is another reason for the priest shortage and blamed increasing pressures on youngsters over the past 40 years. He said "I have no problem with married clergy. It will happen inevitably, but NOT in my lifetime. The wheels of ROME run slow." He said many people have not had God, faith or religion in their lives since the 1960s and that few young men were prepared to commit themselves to a life of celibacy." Well the news article goes on even further but it is quite amazing reading, don't you think? Have you read any news articles like this? What should be done? ------------------ |
Imsold4christ Member Posts: 305 From: Gresham, OR, US Registered: 01-20-2001 |
Have the priests become pastors, at least they get to be married. And pastors have better doctrine anyway. †Caleb† ------------------ [This message has been edited by imsold4christ (edited March 18, 2002).] |
MadProf Member Posts: 181 From: Larnaka, Cyprus Registered: 01-24-2001 |
hey caleb, how do you mean "pastors have better doctrine
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Gift Member Posts: 85 From: Palatine, IL, USA Registered: 02-11-2001 |
I always get freeked out by celibacy. Because of 1Tim4:3 "They forbid people to marry...". The Eastern Orthodox Church it is an anchent church old as Roman Catholic and they allow married men to be Preists, provided they are married before they enter the preisthood. My church believes strongly in the the preisthood of the believer. 1Pet2:5,9 We are a royal and holy preisthood. Those who are called and gifted by God should as a part of their local church. And some are called to be leaders, and some to be pastors which means shepherds and the guys that move the chairs around (thats me). I am not disputing anything that you said I just think the main problems with the RCC are with its false gosple and not just celibacy. Marry can't stop the priest from touching the little boy she has no power. I was talking with this woman from India and she was not a christian I asked her what she knew about Christianity she very inocently replied "are they the ones who worship Marry?" Well I could rant about that for days. Love in Christ |
Imsold4christ Member Posts: 305 From: Gresham, OR, US Registered: 01-20-2001 |
Yeah, that's true MadProf, there are a lot of pastors with unsound doctrine. When I said "priests" I was thinking "Roman Catholic." Anyway, this isn't really a subject I want to talk about. ------------------ |
D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
a life of celibacy, and living in a religious church 24/7, nah i'll just stick to being a happy clappy christian!!! --D-SIPL |
c h i e f y Member Posts: 415 From: Surrey, United Kingdom Registered: 03-07-2002 |
the thing is....when you go to a church, you find the door wide open, you go in.... there are such a lot of things being taken for granted, the church is neat and tidy, heated, books in their place, it's sanctuary, a place of worship, guidance, reassurance, community all of these things and more Churches are often depicted in movies as great places of sanctuary I will never forget a film I saw years ago, a just married young couple got lost in a "bronx" type area of a US city it is quite obviously late into the night or even early morning but the church is open! this is taken completely for granted, the couple go in and find sanctuary (for a while) but my point is...contrast all this to going along to church, could be a church away from your parish the doors are locked, no way in because there is only one priest and he can't be there "enough" to keep it open/maintain it enough the sad thing is, that some people in a so called "civilised country" find an unattended church an easy target for vandalism apart from that I think I do agree with D-SIPL's comments so - 'fraid I'm no help either! ------------------ |
D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
I'm not saying i wouldn't go into a religious church. I agree it is a place of sanctuary, but i wouldn't stay there 24/7, it would do my head in. There cold (because there made of stone), and a lot them sing hymns all of the time, and everyone sounds really depressed, like they've been forced to go. Actually most of them are there out of respect, have been forced a long etc. I just find that a lot of preists in religious churches "talk the talk" but they don't "walk the walk", i mean what's all this about gay preists. And recently Robbie Williams got ordained over the Internet. I doubt if half these people are even christians. The word christianity means to be "Christ Like". Being a gay preist, is that Christ Like.. err no i don't think it is. I'm sorry but i'm just sick of all the hypocrisy, gossiping and everything that goes on in the church... is that being christ like... Sorry about that, but i had to get that off my chest!! --D-SIPL |