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MeanManInOz Member Posts: 388 From: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia Registered: 06-26-2001 |
I thought I'd insert a diversion from the Biblical discussion that seems to be *raging* on the group, and ask what music people like ? Personally I got into Christian music prior to being saved when I went to churches that told me rock was of the devil. To quote 'that satanic beat that makes children kill themselves'. Anyhow, I bought a lot of music, and it was all *awful* IMO. The exceptions were Larry NOrman, Rez, and a band called Messiah Prophet. Overall I listen to secular music, because it's better, although I will not listen to some bands whose music I like because of their lyrical content. Right now I'm listening to Rez, and I must say that they rule. I saw them live, years ago. Saw Larry Norman too. I've also seen Buddy Guy, Junior Wells, ACDC, Eric Clapton, Chuck Berry, Albert King, Wham (!), George Thorogood (twice). I miss live music, we don't get any good bands where I live now. Anyhow, am I the only one who listens to non-Christian music ? On another front, am I the only one who has written and performed Christian music ? |
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plunkg Member Posts: 11 From: Cincinnati, OH, USA Registered: 01-23-2002 |
Yeah, I think that Christian media in general is way below the standard. I listen to a mix of secular, Christian and talk radio. Some of the Christian bands you might dig: Project 86, Precious Death, Galactic Cowboys, Holy Soldier, Kings X (never know where to classify them). Too sleepy to think of more. ------------------ |
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graceworks Member Posts: 455 From: Corvallis, Oregon, USA Registered: 03-03-2001 |
quote: Hey, your profile says programmer. So, the music is part-time? Are you still interested in doing Christian music? Willing to let it be incorporated into a Christian game? What styles can you perform? In answer to the "What music have you listened to recently?" question, I have recently listened to Harry Belafonte, Weird Al, Ray Stevens. Oh, a the Dr. Dobson Book on CD, Bringing Up Boys. -Tim ------------------ |
Krylar Administrator Posts: 502 From: MD, USA Registered: 03-05-2001 |
I like a bit of everything, but Christian-specific I'd have to say Stryper. I was part of the metal scene for a long time. Actually, I'd say a lot of the rebellion I'd felt as a teenager was quelled by listening to Stryper. Excellent musicians, great songs...well, at least that's my opinion  I too am a musician. Been a guitarist since I was ~9. So, roughly 25 years now. Played in bands until I was about 25 or so. Played everything from Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Ozzy, Van Halen, Stryper...to...John Cougar, Collective Soul, Stone Temple Pilots, Steve Vai, Joe Satriani...to...various classical pieces. In other words, I've been all over the map in playing. Also have recorded a number of songs, but never published. Been with one drummer since I was 13 and we have written a number of Christian songs over the last couple of years; some heavy, some light. It's a lot of fun, but we haven't looked into forming a Christian band as yet since we currently live too far apart to make it doable. Oh, and Weird Al is amazing. -Krylar ------------------ |
D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
If i'm being honest i think christian music sux. It's all cheesy and commercial much like secular chart music. I'm more into hard-house, Tech-House, Techno oh an best of all happy hardcore... i bet no-one outside of the rave scene have heard of Hixxy, Sy, Dougal, Vinylgroover.. hehe If you get a chance download a track (from morphewus or something similar)called Access by DJ TIM (no-one will do it, but if someone does then your in for a real treat trust me.) Anyway as you can probably tell, i'm also a DJ (and no i don't mean a radio DJ). All my music is on vinyl, and i play all of the above genres. It's very uplifting and makes you feel good after a bad day. It's a very euphoric feeling... listen to Access by DJ Tim and you'll know what i mean. Oh yeh Garage sux big time. Big it up to the P.L.U crew... rinsin --D-SIPL [This message has been edited by D-SIPL (edited January 25, 2002).] |
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MeanManInOz Member Posts: 388 From: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia Registered: 06-26-2001 |
graceworks: I used to write/play hard rock, blues, funk and acoustic type ballads ( because the church likes them ). I've not played for about two years. Krylar: I hated Stryper in the day, except for the song 'the rock that doesn't roll'. I heard a song called 'shining star' recently though and that was really cool. Did you ever hear Messiah Prophet ? They are OOP but pretty easily downloaded as mp3's. Not a Priest sound at all ( despite the name ), more California, which is not at all a bad thing. Did you like the Resurrection Band ? They are the best Christian band ever IMO. Glenn's solo blues albums also rule. Sounds like we have similar tastes. I LOVE Satriani, I play his live DVD a lot. The lack of lyrics makes it all the better for a secular musucian I enjoy, and he is a master of melody. D-SIPL: cool !! I'm pleased to see the attitude that permeated Christendom before I was saved ( playing records backwards, it's the beat that's satanic, not the words ) doesn't seem to be thriving. |
sgstair Member Posts: 25 From: Emporia, Kansas, USA Registered: 07-12-2001 |
Well - My mom writes and preforms music - and it's pretty good IMO  - she has one cd out - but I don't have a copy currently... sometime I'll have to post some mp3's for you guys - as her music is pretty local to this area ------------------ |
rowanseymour Member Posts: 284 From: Belfast, Northern Ireland Registered: 02-10-2001 |
D-SIPL I would urge you not to write off an entire genre of music - there is some great Christian music out there - how about I download "Access by DJ Tim" and you download "Delirious - King or Cripple"  . I also like a lot of electronic music (not so much Techno these days, usually more ambient stuff). You should try scene music - its all free and usually available in mod/it/xm format and so remixable with tracking software. There is an online scene music radio station called Nectarine, and many great labels like Monotonik. ------------------ |
Angel Member Posts: 699 From: The Blissful State Of Me? Registered: 05-21-2001 |
I liston to groups like "Liveing Sacrafice" Wich is normaly considerd Christian Death Meatal were I live. All of their songs praize God or speak about Him. I also liston to Christian Goth groups such as "Saviour Machine" That base all of their songs on the Living Word of God. I would also like to know were in the Bible this is stated 'that satanic beat that makes children kill themselves'? I have never read it so I would very mutch like to know. Also I blive that some of the statments here are based purly on what you yourselfs personly like. I liston to every Christian stile there is and I will tell you that they all do uplift my soul. They are all also minnistering. I would like to thank you for showing my point that there are plunty of so called Christians out there that are ready to point the finger and say that is evil and the case of people killing themselfs. One of the resons I left thows so called places of love ha! Still you wanted me to prove my points with scripture and this so happens to be something I have studied. So here are some notes for you.. ********************************************* Psalms 149 1 Praise ye the LORD. Sing unto the LORD a new song, and his praise in the congregation of saints. 2 Let Israel rejoice in him that made him: let the children of Zion be joyful in their King. 3 Let them praise his name in the dance: let them sing praises unto him with the timbrel and harp. 4 For the LORD taketh pleasure in his people: he will beautify the meek with salvation. 5 Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds. 6 Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a two-edged sword in their hand; 7 To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people; 8 To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron; 9 To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye the LORD. Psalms 150 1 Praise ye the LORD. Praise God in his sanctuary: praise him in the firmament of his power. 2 Praise him for his mighty acts: praise him according to his excellent greatness. 3 Praise him with the sound of the trumpet: praise him with the psaltery and harp. 4 Praise him with the timbrel and dance: praise him with stringed instruments and organs. 5 Praise him upon the loud cymbals: praise him upon the high sounding cymbals. 6 Let every thing that hath breath praise the LORD. Praise ye the LORD. Ephesians 3 9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ Colossians 1 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him ------------------ |
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MeanManInOz Member Posts: 388 From: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia Registered: 06-26-2001 |
Angel, you are right - people who say such things are motivated by fear. They presented to me classical music as an alternative to decadent rock and I pointed out how decadent the composers lives often where. I wasn't arguing, I was trying to make sense of what they said. That I like hard rock didn't help, I loved a band called Suicidal Tendencies ( still do ). No-one could see past the name. The songs were actually about believing in yourself even if people put you down, the name came from someone telling them they had suicidal tendencies because of the skating tricks they would do. Overall I'd prefer to listen to songs that have a good message, but I watch TV and movies, and I discern what is going to be harmless entertainment and what would be detrimental to me. I do the same with music. As I said before, while the Bible says the be all things to all men, which I interpret to mean going for a generic look that will not leave room for people to judge you badly ( although that is their problem ), I know from experience that only small minded people judge you on how you look or what music you like. The point of the thread was largely interest to see if anyone still thinks that way and if I'm the only one who listens to secular music.
quote: I'm sorry, did I ever judge you based on appearance or music ? Actually you seem very defensive on this point. Make sure your look is not becoming a 'god' to you....
quote: Did you think I was refering to the 'satanic beat' &tc ? I was quoting what someone said to me, as an example of how pathetic it all is when people worry about the devil instead of rekoincing in God. |
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Angel Member Posts: 699 From: The Blissful State Of Me? Registered: 05-21-2001 |
Dear Mean Man In Oz, I was not saying that you juged... I was simply stating that I have been told that in churches and have had that used aginst me. I was called a satanist becase of that saying. I wasnt pointing at you at all. Just saying what I felt. So I bear you no mallis mate Please forgive me for not being more clear. I was hurring down stairs to watch a submerine movie with my fam and had to be quick. God Bless ------------------ |
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MeanManInOz Member Posts: 388 From: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia Registered: 06-26-2001 |
quote: That's OK - I thought *I* had been unclear. Which one ? Last one I saw was U-571, and it ruled. I love submarine movies. Love sub games as well, ever since GATO on the Apple ][. |
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Angel Member Posts: 699 From: The Blissful State Of Me? Registered: 05-21-2001 |
Tripy it was U-571 ^_^ I like it but I will probably never watch it again. If a movie uses God's name in vain more then 4-5 times I tipcly never watch it again. Normal cussing im debatibul on but I dont use the words myself. ------------------ |
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rowanseymour Member Posts: 284 From: Belfast, Northern Ireland Registered: 02-10-2001 |
Euch U-571 - they take the daring story of the Royal Navy capturing a Nazi submarine and its Enigma code machine - and pretend it was the Americans... even though they hadn't joined the war at that stage  ------------------ |
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Angel Member Posts: 699 From: The Blissful State Of Me? Registered: 05-21-2001 |
Thanks for the history lesson. USA says that they did it. Then again I had a Japanise guy tell me that they dropped the A-Bomb on New York and that ended the war. So I dont really bilive anyones history... other then the ancient history of God's People (The Bible). That I will blive but thats about it. ------------------ |
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D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
quote: I've got it thanks. The king of fools abulm was the last one i bought... mezzamorphic was absolutely "cheese on a stick, with a little bit of pineapple" and everything else since has absolute commercial trash. It used to be about the worship, now delerious just want to be in the charts. So now you have to keep your side of the deal and download "Access by Dj Tim" it's absolutely rinsin! --D-SIPL |
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MeanManInOz Member Posts: 388 From: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia Registered: 06-26-2001 |
rowan I especially enjoyed the DVD for that reason. After the American flag waving movie, they had a docu explaining how it was the Brits that did it all, the US was still not involved, as you say. Angel: It's always worth remembering that history is written by the winners. :-) |
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rowanseymour Member Posts: 284 From: Belfast, Northern Ireland Registered: 02-10-2001 |
D-SIPL - I am in a slight predicament - I did agree to download that tune (and I am a man of my word ) - but I also removed Morpheus and Audio Galaxy from my computer just a few days ago because I don't feel so comfortable with downloading copyrighted music anymore... (see new forum topic ------------------ |
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Angel Member Posts: 699 From: The Blissful State Of Me? Registered: 05-21-2001 |
History is not always writen by the winners. It is written by tirents that ruled with iron fist. Such as the romans or the english over the scots or as the english did over the usa or how the usa did over indians. So to me history is mostly writen by tirents who spill much blood over their own greed and lust. ------------------ |
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MeanManInOz Member Posts: 388 From: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia Registered: 06-26-2001 |
quote: By winners I meant the people who had control. They may have been tyrants at times, that is my point, they are hardly to write down 'I am a tyrant', now are they ? :-) |
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Angel Member Posts: 699 From: The Blissful State Of Me? Registered: 05-21-2001 |
Works for me ^_^ ------------------ |
Mack Administrator Posts: 2779 From: Registered: 01-20-2001 |
Christian: Metalcore / Holy metal / goth / gothic orchestrated rock / gothic melody metal / gothic metal / medieval music / medieval opera metal / emo / indie / emotional piano / classical / contempary praise and worship. ------------------ [This message has been edited by Mack (edited January 28, 2002).] |
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MeanManInOz Member Posts: 388 From: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia Registered: 06-26-2001 |
Mack: Gosh, I don't even know what half of that *means*. I must be over the hill... |
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Mack Administrator Posts: 2779 From: Registered: 01-20-2001 |
quote: Hey OzMan, I haven't said hi to you yet, so "HEY OZMAN!" |
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MeanManInOz Member Posts: 388 From: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia Registered: 06-26-2001 |
Hi Mac :=) I'm actually going on three weeks holidays so it's hi/bye, but I'll be back soon enough. |
