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Project Title: Camper Van Wars
Genre: Top-Down Racing Game

Background Story:

In 2020 the earth had suffered due to constant terrorists fighting and rogue world leaders. Allegiances had been shattered and the
worlds economy plummeted into decline. Companies closed, and mass unemployment ensued. Crime was up 80% and lawlessness had become a
way of life. The earth had been pushed into a modern dark age...

The sporting world had all but ceased, and sports of any kind were played on the streets and in alleyways. One sport though was on
the rise! It had captured the hearts of the people living in the slums, a distraction from their hard lives. It was like a new Roman
Coliseum rising up amongst the ruins of the old cities. This arena was built for cars, not just any cars... VW Camper Vans! The Vw
Camper Wars had begun.

Young boys now had a dream, to buy a VW Camper Van, sport it up and race in a demolition derby style duel. If you won races, you won
money, which brings better Camper Vans and better upgrades. With the dream of one day becoming the champ!

Introduction:
Camper Wars is a game based in the near future. The idea is to have a 2d Top-Down racer featuring VW Camper Vans in a demolition
derby style race. Vans can be customized with upgrades including armour, weapons (to disable other vehicles) and van upgrades. The
player will win money after winning races, which can be spent on upgrades and new vans.

Platform: Windows/Linux
Language: C++
Library: Allegro

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Originally posted by super angel steve:
Its pefectly normal to have crushes on fictional animated charaters.

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First the positives..
1. It seems like a fun premise for a casual game.
2. I personally really like the time period.
3. Seems like an attainable goal.

And the *very big negative*..
I thought this was supposed to be a christian game? What's christian about a futuristic race between campers? I don't think this new CCN project was to prove that christians can make games, but rather that there is a market for games with a christian theme, if they would only be done well. Am I missing something big here?

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And the *very big negative*..
I thought this was supposed to be a christian game? What's christian about a futuristic race between campers? I don't think this new CCN project was to prove that christians can make games, but rather that there is a market for games with a christian theme, if they would only be done well. Am I missing something big here?

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It would be good if anyone still wanted to help out.

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D-SIPL, From a purely gameplay standpoint here (so not worrying about content), what makes this game standout from other top-down driving games, ala Pole Position and Spy Hunter? Is it the level of customization, the wacky environment, or are there additional mechanics taking place? Are you thinking more an area styled game, like the old Crash Derby games, or more of a racing game? Are you thinking specific strategies will be balanced into the mods (the old rock, paper, scissors mechanic (slow & heavy generally defeats mid & mid -> light & fast -> slow & heavy (maybe it could be oil vs. natural gas vs. electric that gives you different mod trees? (exactly how far CAN you nest asides?)))?

Anyway, it sounds like an interesting premise, but I’d love to hear more about what makes it stand out from the other games. Thanks!

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I think the CD should be a Christian-friendly collection; if it's aimed at the Christian market the why would you want to "preach to the choir"?

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proverbs 17:28
Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

proverbs 25:7
open rebuke is better than secret love.

www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia

www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs

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Originally posted by super angel steve:
Its pefectly normal to have crushes on fictional animated charaters.

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fun concept. Building and fighting cars has complete appeal to me.

One thing I would suggest is to NOT limit it to camper Vans but let the player buy and choose different types of cars.

Have a camper van option. Maybe a hatchback. Dune Buggy. Muscle Car. Pick up. have different chassis that have different advantages and disadvantages. Maybe the camper van carries more armor and weapons but is ultimately slower. Maybe the muscle car has great acceleration but slides about alot and is hard to control. etc and so on.

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God Bless!

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Sam Washburn

Check out my CCN SpeedGame 2 Blog

This sounds like a 3d game. Since I'm a 2D artist (and using pre-made models, at that), I'm limited to GUI, icons, etc. (I'm not a UV mapper or very good with textures). I can also do music tracks, collect sound effects, and voice-overs.

D-Sipl, I like your choice of cars. It's fresh and funny and will stick out in the industry.

There's some obvious themes in Deathrace 2000 and Road Warrior that we want to get away from. But there's some fun potential in the upgrades of the cars. Perhaps the upgrades can be non-conventional pieces of junk that are fitted to the car.

"I ain't got any timin' belts left, mate. But 'eres a pair o' panty hose we rummaged from the drink. It should do the trick, all right."

Something that brings a smile, rather than revenge.

I think it could even be said that all these games will greatly complement each other.

These would probably requires some changes to your storyline and a different backdrop(maybe a cartoon-ish one?). Mostly some ideas on how Christian content might be incorporated into this game if desired.

The models of the cars in the game can have meshes that attach to them, like 20 car batteries lashed together with duct tape as a power source, or a drag net of sharp objects that can be unfurled from the back. When a car is hit with a projectile, these attachments can come flying off and they can be part of the loot for the winner.

The fun factor would not be bullets, blood, and explosions, but more of a rock 'em sock 'em kind of fun:

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Originally posted by JeTSpice:
This sounds like a 3d game.

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The game design came about as a result of a conversation about how boring a lot of games are these days. We concluded that games during the 80s-90s were a lot more imaginative, rather then dull clones of an already exhausted idea. The original game was started around 4-5 years ago but never finished and subsequently got lost. It has always been an ambition of mine to re-write the game and finish it.

I like the idea of having different bits of junk from a junk yard to use as weapons. I don't want there to be fatal violence, but the use of weapons is to slow down, impair and disable other players vans has got to be encouraged

The game will be Top-Down and isn't ground-breaking in the slightest. It will however be extremely playable, and it's the game mechanics and gameplay experience that i want to focus on. It should be a game that people would want to pickup and have fun.

It will have GTA 1 style graphics, and play a like Demolition Derby. There will be different tracks and areas like schools and carparks. Maybe this could be a training time, until you get noticed?

I'll start putting together a Design Document. If you want to help out then reply here, or pm me.

Thanks for your input so far!

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Edit: I made these in just a few minutes using Bryce 3D and pre-done car models. I have permission to use all the models (30+) in a game, but credit needs to be given. It's lots quicker than pixel art, and easier to make changes afterwards. If you like this approach to the art, you can include it in your design doc. The cars would need to be roughed up in photoshop (by somebody else) because most of them are not UV mapped. They use textures.

Here's mockup pics of what I'm talking about-- icons and top-down views:

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You including a camper trailer made me wonder if a racing game with a trailer could add an interesting physics-based element -- I'm imagining you coming around a corner and basically swinging your trailer like a ball-and-chain flail at your opponents.

And regarding the whole idea of RV's, I'm imagining a periodic enemy being a tornado that rips through the RV park (because, that's what tornadoes always go after).

--clint

Eventually I'd like to see Christian Coders have a wiki for handling project brainstorming/design/refinement, but for now, SamW3 and I set this one up on my personal server for everyone's use. Feel free to make an account and go to town!

--clint

Why, o why, does that man have big eyes,
And his hand is bigger than his head?
It's because all the things that he does
Are unseen when smaller instead.

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Edit: Oh, you know what? I finally got "top-down" in the first post. I thought it meant convertible.

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That's the reason why Bumblebee in the Transformers movie was a camaro and not a beetle, VW wouldn't let them use it.

I doubt VW would notice the game, but, just filling you in on that.

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The game will primarily revolve around the Camper Van theme, and will probably be the only available vehicle. However full customisation can be done on the van (with upgrades), and maybe we will one day do a car editor.

Currently I am working on the game framework and integrating car physics, as this is a primary feature (i want to prototype quickly). I have however been bogged down in the last 2 weeks with assignments for uni. Sometimes working 12-15 hours a day. This has meant that things have temporarily slowed for the game; however with christmas looming, more work will be done in my 3 week break.

We still need artists. I do have an image of the basic van, with damage tiles

I have updated the wiki a little so check that out.

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"One World. One Web. One Program." -Microsoft promotional advertisement
"Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer!" -Adolf Hitler

OT - make sure to tell us what art you need, D-Sipl