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Game play:
You are an aspiring leader that isn't known in history,

yet. You will soon be known as either hero or fraud in the

history you write. You will lead one of the pivotal

factions in the battle for Europe. You will be able to

design yourself from a variety of classes, cultures, and

abilities. Both your class, and culture will shape you,

but you will be able to shape yourself through adjusting

your statistics.

You will try to lead your faction to victory!

Time Frame:
Based around the period of just before the dark ages, this

is based on the battles between the North Barbarians, with

Atilla the Hun vs. the Roman Empire. Also the Turks,

Persian Barbarians, and the Roman Empire vs. the Byzantine

Empire. With the Athens, and the Spartans with inner

animosity towards each other, but not really with

outsiders, but in bad positions.

Positioning:
The Northern Barbarians aren't in exceptional positions of

Fortification, but aren't too bad, the Persian Barbarians

likewise.

The Turks aren't in a great position, but have a good deal

of territory, but are spread thin due to their aggresive

nature.

The Huns aren't in the greatest of positions, with their

Barbarian cousins leaving them, but they are in an easily

recoverable position.

The 2 Roman empires are about the same with the Byzantine

smaller, but better fortified, especially in Constantine.

While the Roman Empire has more territory, but is not so

well off.

The Greeks are in a horrible position fortified wise, and

territory wise, but are more powerful than the other

factions.

Cultures:
North Barbarians:
Powerful, Fierce.
Heavy Build, extra low learning, Strong

Turks:
Agressive
Strong Build, low-medium learning

Persian Barbarians:
Medium Power
Medium-Heavy Build, low learning, Medium-Strong

Huns:
Powerful, Fierce, Agressive, Rash
Medium-Heavy Build, low learning, Extra-Strong

Athens Greeks:
Peaceful, Able
Weak Build, Medium-High Learning, Extra High Learning Rate

Spartans Greeks:
Long-Lasting, Fierce, Contained-Powerful
Medium Build, High Density, medium learning, medium

learning rate

Romans:
Powerful, Slow-Acting
Low-Medium Build, High learning, medium learning rate

Byzantine:
Powerful, Slow-Acting, Wealthy
Low Build, Medium Learning, Medium Learning Rate, Fortified

Statistics:
Strength
Learning
Leadership
Body
Building
Speed

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MM out-
Thought travels much faster than sound, it is better to think something twice, and say it once, than to think something once, and have to say it twice.
"Frogs and Fauns! The tournament!" - Professor Winneynoodle/HanClinto

I reserve the full right to change my views/theories at any time.

1. The Persian Empire and the Roman Empire are not really contemporaries
2. The Norse are not "low learning". They were labeled as barbarians because they did not shave their legs like Romans did.
3. The "barbarians" or specifically the Goths in this case were not allied with the Huns. In fact, the Roman empire *invited* the Huns in to fight the Goths.
4. You mentioned "2 roman empires". There was at one time, a Western and Eastern Roman Empire, however, the Eastern Roman Empire is synonymous with the Byzantine Empire. There was a predominance of Greek culture in the Byzantine Empire.
5. The Hellenistic Greek culture was not a contemporary with the Goths, Romans (and Byzantine), or Huns at the timeframe you described.
6. The classical Roman empire is not a contemporary of the dark ages.
7. The Turkish Empire, more commonly referred to as The Ottoman Empire.

If you want to get a good idea of more a historical context. Wikipedia is a helpful tool.

If you want the beginning of the Dark Ages, I would remove the Greeks, Persians and Romans as they all existed only before this timeframe.

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"I find myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world!"
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Originally posted by Angel:
History is different for each viewer I would say.

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While there are a whole lot of unknowns and unclear portions of history. History is history, not a lot of wiggle room.

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"I find myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world!"
-C. S. Lewis

Insanepoet: That is exactly what I was looking for. Perhaps my knowledge of when the dark ages began is inaccurate, but from my source they appeared to make it seem that the Barbarians, 1. didn't have as much respect for knowledge, 2 the librarys of knowledge were destroyed in the war starting the dark ages.

Accoring to what i know, it seems that after the Barbarians beat the Roman Empire[s] Europe plunged into the dark ages. Below I'll explain some of what I "know"

1. I'm not quite sure where you're getting a Persian Empire, but I was refering to the Barbarians invading from Persia.
2. According to what I had heard, they did not focus as much on learning, as war. Example, from what I "know" Athens had a better environment, and ability to learn than the Spartans, they were equally potential, but the Spartans didn't exist in an environment for learning.
3. From what I had heard, Atilla the Hun had been a leader of one of the groups of Barbarians, I guess I must have misunderstoon it.
4. I keep interchanging Eastern Roman Empire, and Byzantine Empire, I realize they're the same, I just have trouble keeping the reference to only Byzantine, or Only Eastern Roman. I'll try to change all the references to Eastern Roman.
5. I wasn't sure if they were, or weren't so since I wanted to have a high learning, and a fighter in a bad position, I had them in. If Greece didn't exist, then where did the Eastern Roman Empire get its Greek influence from?
6. Again, according to what I heard as Rome was conquered, the Dark ages began, this is about the conquering of Rome.
7. They are? Hmm... All through out my source they mentioned Turks, and Turkish, but not Ottoman, do you think I should change it?

I'm not sure if the time frame is clear, In history, this game would play out the conquering of rome, of course this will change depending what faction you chose to lose/win with. I'm planning on in the game being able to change whether Rome was defeated, and if it is, then by who. For example, the Byzantine empire could conquer the Persians before the assembled enough of a fighting threat, and with their new territory, take out the Turks, giving them the Eastern side of the Board, and then fortify some more, and pay the Huns to work on the Roman Empire, while they destroy the Northern Barbarians, and then when the Huns are destroyed, destroy the weakened Roman empire, and so the Dark Ages never happened.

Or, you could fulfill history, and have the Northern Barbarians...

Kinda see what I"m getting at?

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MM out-
Thought travels much faster than sound, it is better to think something twice, and say it once, than to think something once, and have to say it twice.
"Frogs and Fauns! The tournament!" - Professor Winneynoodle/HanClinto

I reserve the full right to change my views/theories at any time.

The Norse noticed that the Roman empire was beginning to weaken and so they began to invade. Most notably were the Goths. They migrated from "Gotland" (which is modern day Sweden) and took over the providence of Dacia (which is modern day Romania) They began to approach Rome so the Romans invited the Huns in and had them settle between the Goths and the Romans.

There were other norse peoples that invaded.

The Vandals migrated to North Africa
The Anglos, Saxons and Jutes, or commonly referred to as the Anglo-Saxons, took over Britiania. (The Anglo-Saxons are now the English)

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"I find myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world!"
-C. S. Lewis

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Originally posted by insanepoet:
Most notably were the Goths.

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Originally posted by insanepoet:
The Vandals

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Funny how the meanings of words change over the centuries!

@Mene-Mene: keep up your quest for knowledge! I think you have a great idea if executed correctly!