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InsanePoet

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For some reason it won't let me reply to the "Christian games = clones" thread but I can reply to every other one.

I agree.

Further more I feel like chrisitan games are often viewed at substitutes when I feel they should be the first choice.

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jestermax

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i didn't mean that people should just make it a first choice JUST because it's "christian". but yes, i think it should be first choice; not that i'm telling everyone to do that. just something to think about
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In my opinion, a video game is a video game. If i'm going to spend time on a video game, i'm not going to spend my time on a substitute. I feel that they should be good in their own right.

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yeah, some things you just can't substitute. when i thought of the post, i was more thinking of music anyways; there are some bands that have styles that link up perfectly to secular bands. my girlfriend had a chart that would compare styles like that. I just started listening to the new Switchfoot cd and i can tell a lot of their songs have a style that is similar to cold play.
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I do a bit of that with heavy metal bands.

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jestermax

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i listen to metal and hard rock too. a few bands are Jonah33, Skillet, Disciple or Pillar (off the top of my head)
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Most of what I listen to is stuff like Iron Maiden and crazy european power metal.... stuff that's often very dark, so it's good to have a Christian band to listen to.


And I finally got around to uploading my avatar... Behold the seal of Duhn-Durlas!

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I think it's alright to make Christian clones of stuff, but as long as they bring something new to the table. I believe it's good to make an alternative, but it won't get noticed by the secular unless there's something different about them.

I also believe once Christian entertainment is comfortable with copying the secular, it should move onto new concepts. So it can impact the industry as much as a secular product.

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I think that we need the styles that are in the secular world because without them, why would anyone want to become a Christian? <- (Don't get me wrong, God is reason enough) Just because you are a Christian doesn't mean you can't listen to music. I do believe you should put away the secular music and listen to Christian music.

I also think that when a Christian labels their product "Christian" they need to do their absolute best to make that product the best that they possibly can. Personally I can't stand some of the Christian movies I've seen. They are so cheesy and turn me off. But that's another topic altogether.

But really, they should be the ones copying us. We have God on our side.

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jestermax

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hahahahaha christian movies are HORRIBLE! they should make then all more like Terminator 2
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I think Christian movies mostly lack in the acting and dialogue. I also think it's something that will improve, as long as the moviemakers realize there is something wrong with the movies.

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bwoogie

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i agree with you lava. one of the best christian movies i've seen is "something to sing about" it's a billy graham movie but it has eddie from family matters (cant think of his real name) and tia(or tamera) mowry (sister sister). it has a pretty good story and good acting. it's about an ex-con ... well, i wont spoil it..

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We should be led by God on creative design and implimentation, work hard on making a quality product and be very careful not to get duped by the enemy.
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Hmm some movies about Jesus which are based on the scripture of the Bible have always been at least ok in quality. I mean good actors, poor low budget effects but as long as there isnt too much improvised then I can enjoy watching a such movie.

What comes to Christian games it seems to me that most of them are just labeled as Christians and in my opinion there are some quite shameful games which I would not recommend to anyone. But I am not going to go into names here. And it's my opinion if some is making Christian movie or game it should inpired by the Holy spirit if one would call it Christian. Otherwise it should be called game with Christian (like) theme - that would narrow down the confusion, at least the way I see it.
I have been thinking that it may not be best to advertise games as Christian if you are doing something that you are led by God to but instead explain how it's based on the Bible.

Something to ponder: Was the temple Salomon built a Christian temple? I'd say that in the sense it was (even Christian means follower of Christ). But what about the tents Apostle Paul made, were they Christian tents? I'd say they we'rent because their purpose was solely for money, for living.

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Originally posted by Mack:
We should be led by God on creative design and implimentation, work hard on making a quality product and be very careful not to get duped by the enemy.

I totally agree. We should be listening to the Holy Spirit and letting Him guide our entire development process. It says in the Bible that the Holy Spirit knows the deepest thoughts of God. In which case He knows exactly how to make your game successful and what is needed.

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When it comes to story writing, I follow what the Inklings thought (Tolkien, CS Lewis). Writing a story that's a 1:1 allegory is just bad story writing. If you have a 1:1 it can't stand as a good story on it's own.


What I've discovered is that when I just write what I think makes a good story, more often than not Biblical ties seem to come into play. I'll write something and then after I write it, I seem Biblical ties.

I don't know if this will work for everyone, but what I say is "don't force it"

Jesus told stories to illustrate spiritual realities, these stories were never perfect 1:1 allagories.

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"I find myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world!"
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