What do you think? Perhaps this has some potential to be next community project?

In Christ,
Jari.

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Nice idea, Jari!

And perhaps with new levels, new tools to guide the sheep could be introduced with verses about those topics, and it could blend puzzles with gameplay and spiritual analogies.

Good thinking! I totally think this could be a good community project.

--clint

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great idea Jari, its perfect!

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Goop, I know and I believe that's why clint mentioned new tools. What those are and how we can make sheeps dig are so that it doesnt look too wierd is something we need to figure out first. One thing is that sheeps could use parachute instead of umbrella or cloud that brings them down safely. The diggin is tricky one and one of the important functions in lemmings so I make one early suggestion that there would be a burning flame that devours the earth - this has a symbolical meaning.

Jari.

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I will help with some graphics if you want.

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The diggin is tricky one and one of the important functions in lemmings so I make one early suggestion that there would be a burning flame that devours the earth - this has a symbolical meaning.

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or the sheep could just eat the ground
and to build it could spit out planks

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For instance, things in the levels are trying to lead the sheep astray, and your tools are to get the sheep back on track, and get them through or past or around things that are trying to lead them astray.

As an example, one obstacle might be seductive "adulterous" sheep who are trying to lead them astray. You could put blinders or super-speed on a couple sheep to get them past, and then they could dig a tunnel around to let the other ones through.

I dunno', I'm just imagining stuff like that. The idea of seductively-dressed sheep trying to lure the other sheep away is funny to me too.

--clint

Oh, and about sheep "falling", I liked the suggested cloud. Perhaps there can be "items" for use throughout the game. Like, limited numbers or "cloud elevators" and the like.

Jari, I really like the idea, and I think you should do it in 3D.

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or the sheep could just eat the ground
and to build it could spit out planks

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Hehe, I thought about the same thing about the eating, but sheeps are not greedy but noble creation of God. So we must be respectful.

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I'm not entirely sure that we would need to totally clone all of the lemming's actions -- if we could think of new actions that made a new puzzle game that's only in the spirit of Lemmings, then that would be cool.

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Yeah that's one way to go!

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I dunno', I'm just imagining stuff like that. The idea of seductively-dressed sheep trying to lure the other sheep away is funny to me too.

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Black sheeps. I don't think it's funny but black sheeps could cause all kinds of trouble in the pack.

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To keep it high you can make a few sheep "martyrs", dieing for their cause. Raises morale or whatnot.

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The thing with martyrs it that it's not Biblical because Jesus is the one who gave His life for the sheep.

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Jari, I really like the idea, and I think you should do it in 3D.

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Well I prefer 2D my self and that's why I was hoping this could be done using pingus' source. Making a lemmings clone is lot of work, it requires good physics and pixel perfect collision engine.

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About the martyrs, remember that many times in history a prominent Christian has given his life for his beliefs, and it was much encouragement to those who heard about it.

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About the martyrs, remember that many times in history a prominent Christian has given his life for his beliefs, and it was much encouragement to those who heard about it.

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Ok, I thought about it, Ive got some ideas for you.
Digging: Sheeps can probabaly dig like a dog.
Tunneling: Ok, I thought this was kinda silly, but maybe ramming their heads on walls? Maybe making a tunnelersheep gives him a hardhat to ram the wall with :P If not that, eating the wall is also REALY funny!
Climbers: They could shimmy up the wall, maybe jumping, grabing, and jumping agian? When they grab on theyll go down a teeny bit.
Floaters: Make the umbrella with a sheperd staff handle. That way it can fit around the sheep, so its just dangling there. Cute huh?

Dunno about builders, but I kinda like those. Also, just a joke, but when you set a nuke, they could have text above their heads that says "liek omg!!1". Just my 2 cents.

I need to get out the old games and play that.....

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Hehe, I thought about the same thing about the eating, but sheeps are not greedy but noble creation of God. So we must be respectful.

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just my 2¢

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Symbolic meanings can be great because they go as one with the message... like when sheeps fall to the level it should represent falling to sin and when they hover down gently it would symbolize being saved, in Lord's hand.

The more Christian/Biblical sheeps the better.

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I vote for the hard hat thingy, that cracked me up.

Be careful with the whole male/female devision thing!!

You could also have shiny things like idols that would distract the sheep, you'd need to give em sunglasses or something. My 2 and 1/2 cents worth.

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You could also have shiny things like idols that would distract the sheep, you'd need to give em sunglasses or something.

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Or maybe grass, and they stop to eat XD
but then how to get them past it...

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Or maybe grass, and they stop to eat XD
but then how to get them past it...

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Grass... reminds about Psa 23:2. I would really like to see Jesus as the shepherd some how in this game.

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Grass... reminds about Psa 23:2. I would really like to see Jesus as the shepherd some how in this game.

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Well, we certainly can't have the player trying to fill the role of Jesus .

However, we pastors are often called "shepherding elders" -- with the role model being Jesus and how He shepherded the disciples.

So "Jesus as the Shepherd" certainly fits within the context of the game, though I doubt we could fit Jesus into the gameplay -- I don't want to try and go there.

--clint

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Oh yeah, did someone already bring up rebelious sheep? Like, sheep that won't listen and cause trouble?

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Anyhow, this is how the story screen looks like:

the story

Story mode's map screen:

tutorial island

And the game it self (official shot from the site):

pingus in winter

If you have linux you can install pingus with the package manager (maybe) or do what I had to do and use klik.

I would really like to use pingus as base for this game but I am also considering isometric alternatives.

Hmm interesting ideas from different aspect in this thread and while I don't yet have the time to start working on pingus I think we could start putting these ideas together and start designing sheeplings.
What do you all think, who's interested if I'll setup a wiki where we can design this game in prayer, according to the Lord's will?

In Christ,
Jari.

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editthis.info is a good place, or if you have a Yahoo membership (or could/would get one) you can set up a Yahoo Group, those are like message boards but you can reply by email, plus they've got other stuff...

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i'm interested... where would you set up the wiki?

editthis.info is a good place, or if you have a Yahoo membership (or could/would get one) you can set up a Yahoo Group, those are like message boards but you can reply by email, plus they've got other stuff...

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I have web space. URL would be something like sheeplings.voiceofhisword.com which, I know, is quite long but we can have a domain dedicated to sheeplings when needed (when the time comes).

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oh ok nvm then... =D

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hey, I forgot to say thanks for the help!

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well you see, the exponential rate of your posting must be squared and divided by the speed of spam plus the square root of time and space squared by the sum of posting and spam muliplied by the speed of dialup internet service...

man.... it's so much easier to show this with a blackboard :p

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Originally posted by lava:
well you see, the exponential rate of your posting must be squared and divided by the speed of spam plus the square root of time and space squared by the sum of posting and spam muliplied by the speed of dialup internet service...

man.... it's so much easier to show this with a blackboard :p

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I think a good rule of thumb is that if your sig is consistently longer than your posts, then it's probably too long.

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well you see, the exponential rate of your posting must be squared and divided by the speed of spam plus the square root of time and space squared by the sum of posting and spam muliplied by the speed of dialup internet service...
man.... it's so much easier to show this with a blackboard :p

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Good theme in that game...

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This is a great idea. I pray it has the Lord's blessing.

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...are there some goats in this thread? Sh... we'll sort 'em out later...

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Here's an idea :
Use John 15:13 "Greater love [has] no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." and click on your sheep and as the sheep approaches a small chasm, he lays down, making a bridge for all the other sheep to cross. At the end of the level, he's stuck there, sadly, but he lifts his head and gives a "bleat out" to all his buddies before they move on to the next level.

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I like the iso idea, too, Jari. This way, the game can have a pasture or something, and it can funnel into a narrow way in order to take advantage of the single-file (platformer) aspect of lemmings.

If you do go with iso, the graphics can be bigger, but the level's length can remain the same by having the path wind back and forth across the screen, accounting for pitfalls in some fashion.

Going iso can also give a slight 3d feel, by having the sheep go behind trees and stuff. They can be rendered more richly in 16 or 32 directions for all the actions that they have in the pasture (like probably just a walk cycle), and they need only be rendered in one direction when they are walking along a linear path.

Isaiah 41:31 "...they shall mount up with wings as eagles;..."