Conan Member Posts: 69 From: the world Registered: 06-27-2004 |
Well, I'm not a master of the subject, I mean, I've never managed to get any project past it's first stage, but luckily, I get the whole argument done in that stage, so at least i can talk about how a story should be (from my point of view) in a Christian Game. Also , I believe that even though I'm not an expert, having a discussion about this would be constructive, so here goes: First, any game that just throws bible verses at you is basically doomed (unless you find a creative way to do it, which can be real cool Second, the best way (in my opinion) to reach out, is quite easy: through your characters. Third, you do know the main reason secular games seem to be more fun (and most are) is that they focus on giving a gaming experience, so... WHY DON'T WE DO THE SAME? We focus so much on reaching to other people that we forget that the only reason a game WOULD be able to reach out in the first place is if it is played, and it is only played if people know it, and people only know GOOD games!!! So try your best to make a good game, not just an "everyone is happy cos god is good" game. (Umm, sorry, got too emotional on the third one, LOL) Fourth, why so many people want their games to be like, don't kill, fight, swear, lie, just be a good guy? How many of you ARE like that in the first place? And aren't we technically all fighting the bloodiest battle of all against Satan's forces? And wouldn't we all fight if somehow christianity was banned in the whole world (hint at storyline Oh well, feel free to comment, criticize, laugh, but please don't spam, this is the first long post in my life, hope it helps somebody, and I'd love it if everyone out there could add something to it ------------------ |
goop2 Member Posts: 1059 From: Registered: 06-30-2004 |
quote: Perfect game idea. A game that isnt actualy real, its spiritual. You fight a war aginst satan and his army... Youre a genius! ------------------ |
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Conan Member Posts: 69 From: the world Registered: 06-27-2004 |
quote: *puts on Tom Cruise Voice* "Well, I don't like to brag... but ok, I guess i am (end of mementary crazyness) WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! (or maybe not...) EDIT: I feel the need to fix this post... Maybe later, anyways, any opinions out there?
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Jari Member Posts: 1471 From: Helsinki, Finland Registered: 03-11-2005 |
Good questions there conan, here's some of my thoughts to get this thread going.
quote: I agree that isnt right way to go, at least I dont know how that would work. Especially if you kill because killing and Gospel dont mix because it's opposide of mercy which God's grace is about.
quote: Yeah the primary goal should always be reaching those who are lost, bringing them Gospel of Christ, salvation unto life eternal. But as life here on earth is not like life in Heaven and what is people like here on earth is just lust of the eyes and there is no love that comes from God in that. And when we add the fact that Jesus' name is not what people like to hear we have a problem. I'd say that we shouldnt ever expect to please people but bring Gospel to those who have room in their heart for God's word. I mean we shouldnt give something carnal just because it's all what people can take because obviously they will get elsewhere anyway. We can be subtle and challenge the player to look into God's word by asking interesting questions, like "did you know" or even "what do you think about this?". But not to require the player perceive on going flow of Bible verses. It must all happen from love and love takes it time to wake.
quote: I think you might have a good point in here but I warn you not to make any evil character which player can enjoy playing because the actions are bad. I sure wouldnt make character that swears or lies, it seems good idea to me though to use character is not Christian but just letting the player understand (by telling it in the plot/story) that he ins't a role model should be enough. Why I think it might be a good idea to let player control character who is unsaved sinner is because putting player in boots of a holy man when player knows nothing about God (assuming he is not reborn) would just be plain wierd. And when is not supposed to act like holy he can have more personal view of the message in the game and can hopefully get the feeling that like he's character learns new things and views about life and changes to better he could change too. And when you have player "in his character" thinking about meaning of life and death etc you can start giving him the answers and that answer is Jesus.
quote: You have to be careful not to make it just a good gaming experience because then that's all what its going to give and sooner than you notice there's no room for Gospel since your game has become serving plate for lust.
quote: The battle against Satan is already won, it is our own battle/run we must make. I wouldnt make any game that is about killing in name of Christ, that would be very wrong. In Christ, ------------------ [VoHW] (Help needed) [Blog] - Truedisciple (mp3) |
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Conan Member Posts: 69 From: the world Registered: 06-27-2004 |
quote: I really need to learn... how... to express.. myself... AAAAARGHHHH!!!! Oh well, I meant that like, if christianity were banned in the whole world, you would not be likely to just sit still... But i never said anything about killing, I mean, just plain surviving would make a good game, especially if you add a bit of intrigue... ------------------ |
crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
I was thinking about that the other day. Perhaps during the persecution of the Christians in Rome, could have kindof a stealth element to it. Dodgin through the catacombs and sneaking around in the alleys. Thats the basic idea, and theres plenty of good plots/storylines you could attach. No matter how good the idea for a game is, if it has a "story" but no good plot, it will suck. (This I have learned on my own). ------------------ |
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Conan Member Posts: 69 From: the world Registered: 06-27-2004 |
quote: I totally agree, there are a big bunch of games with a good story whose plot seems kinda artificial when you get to it... Such a sad loss... Well, about the catacomb thing, it might be a good idea, but i personally always tend to have storylines a bit more elaborated and closer to the present. AND, for some unknown reason, Poland always appears in my stories, LOL ------------------ |
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crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
Thats because poland was meant for invasion.... -.- I'd like to see one with something of a "role reversal" where most of the "civilised/westernized nations" reject christianity. It starts out with a group of people in church, when a bunch of people start chucking rocks through the window, soon mulotovs too. The chruch gets surrounded, so basically everybody is inside while its beginning to burn, when you take action. 1st mission objectives are : 1)find an escape 2)"clear a path" (i.e. knock out some of the attackers) 3) escort the trapped people to safety. Movie scene: Trying to convince police that the chruch people didnt start the conflict, but getting nowhere. Your face gets planted all over the news as the guy who started it all, the ringleader of the Christian rabble, etc. Next level: getting to a "contact" of yours, trying to find some help for the local Christians who are suffering constant persecution, etc. Kindof a stealth based mission, as you'll need to get into an office building where you're not welcome. Anybody feel like taking it from there? ------------------ |
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Conan Member Posts: 69 From: the world Registered: 06-27-2004 |
Hmmm... My Version of a Christian Persecution Game (CPG, LOL) Back Story: Poland suffered a coup d'etat and a crazy wacko took over it. The problem is that it is a military genius crazy wacko... Couple years later, the main character (a kinda tough guy that acts as bodyguard for a nice fee) gets contracted by a young Christian to help him get to Paris safe and sound.
Geez, I'll have to give em names or something! Ok, Main character is M, the christian missionarry is C, the girl is G and the guy with the girl is F. Anyways, M must now save C, and while he's at it, he saves the other two. Geez, I'll make this into a book, I'm serious!!! (I'll be gone for a week, so i won't be able to post ------------------ [This message has been edited by conan (edited April 01, 2006).] |
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goop2 Member Posts: 1059 From: Registered: 06-30-2004 |
quote: I could just see all these people running around, then stopping and covering their heads while someone beats them with a stick... pure gold ------------------ |
), I mean, how many non-christians would ever be touched just cos the players kill a baddy and then say "God is good, for he has bla bla bla...". I mean, seriously, the objective of a christian game is reach out, not to create barriers that make everybody hate christian games.
I'll miss you all!! LOL)