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Game idea: '30 AD' – vincent

vincent

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From: Amersfoort, the Netherlands
Registered: 12-23-2002
I'm sure other people thought of this before, and its not really a game, more like an online community with some MMORPG tendencies. The game follows the bible for a year, the year in which Christ was crucified. It follows about the same timeline as that year, in which events as ther occure in the bible are placed. Every player is free to explore the world, which is probably Isreal. It contains players and NPC. NPCs can tell you about events, or things they've experienced. Most NPC's are just common folk, however there are others, like the woman at the well, or Zacchaeus. NPC's have schedules, in which they walk. For example, the woman at the well, is only there at mid day. They also have different states. For example, before Zacchaeus met Jesus, he is not a nice man at all to talk to, however, afterwards he is a changed man. The world would be a visual one. There are also taverns, places to visit and you can chat, maybe even trade items. Even Jesus could be an NPC, and walking around, you might even be able to have a chat with Him. It would be awesome if some of the events would happen right in front of you. You could be part of the feeding of 5000, or you could be there when the paralyzed man walks out with his bed.

Whadda ya think?
What platform could be used to realize this?
2D or 3D?

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Lava
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Well I would be careful fictionalizing Jesus (talking to him). But I think it would be awesome seeing the effects of Jesus. I think the medium could work with 2d, and it's a little more feasible, but I think it would be awesome in 3d.

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Jari

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This is nice idea Vincent!
And yeah I have too thought about something like that. In fact I'm currently working (with lava and others) on a MMORPG that's about exploring and seeking the truth. There's many NPCs but they are all fictional who have tasks or info for the player. So I think we are along the same lines in here only difference being that I prefer to keep it all fictional and only imitate Biblical facts.

It sure would be nice in 3D.
If you are interested, you are welcome to implement some of those ideas in VoHW.

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buddboy

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Great, and I mean great, idea Vincent!! You should take this and run with it!! I mean, (to speak figuratively) it may (or maybe already does!!) seem like a marathon (told you figuratively!!) but if you pray about it and it's God's will (can't see why not!!) it should work!! I agree with lava about not fictionalizing Christ, but I think the thing about being there for the events would be great. I would love to see what you could come up with for the time when Jesus cast the Legion demon out of that man and they went into the pigs... that would be phenomenal (or would that not be included)... Could I help at all? I can help with art,(if it's 2-D), maybe, just maybe, music and sound, and I always like offering ideas (whether good or bad)... I love it... *whining* Man, you get all the good ideas!!

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vincent

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I understand the Jesus thing. I was dubbing about it too, but the fact is that those events do happen. It would be kinda weird to be there and the 5000 weren't fed, and suddenly they where. It would be much more aweomse if people actually moved around and things really happend, it would be weird if the actual person initiating it all would not be there. Imagine the crucifixion without Jesus. But, maybe we should put some limitation on whether you can speak to Jesus or not.. though that wouldn't be very biblical. So, anyone care to think about that.. Jesus in it or not? Talk to him, don't talk to him? If not, why not? If so, why so, and what limitations would it have.. would he only use biblical phrases for example? Or in an attempt to talk to Jesus, the system would just say "Well, put your hands together and pray". Thats also an option, ofcourse

Hey! this is my 100st post!

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Jari

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Well if there we're Jesus in game, what He would do and say should be entirely based on the Bible. Because I would not dare to put any words of my own in God's (the almighty) mouth.
Same thing with miracles, we know that Jesus healed people and setting up a game scenery where Jesus heals some one like described in Bible would be ok but the NPC shouldn't be doing anything that isn't in the new testament.

It would be awesome in my opinion if there we're a NPC traveling between towns doing miracles just like Jesus did in the Bible but player wouldn't know it presents Jesus. That how it seems more appropriate when it's not said that the NPC is Jesus but it's merely implied.

And what comes to talking to the NPC, I think the NPC shouldn't say anything to the player. Because God (Jesus) came to earth to call His sheeps and He knew new testament would be written by the men he teached and we have He's commands in the Bible today so that whosoever may seek for Him by reading it. And that's why I think we shouldn't try to bring God with us but rather seek for Him.
Remember that God chooses us we don't choose Him.

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For the zeal of thine house hath eaten me up; and the reproaches of them that reproached thee are fallen upon me. - Psa 69:9
He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. - Joh 12:25

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vincent

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The goal of the NPC is to tell what happend in a different way.. you can kind of say that its a translation from the written word to a digital one. Ofcourse interpretations and assumtions have to be made, just like the bible me now know is full of that. I think there is not much wrong in extrapolating and interpolating elements though. Its like building a world around the events. I don't think there is much wrong with that as long as you keep true to the original text, and focussed on the goal: and that is to give others some menas to learn about Jesus and the bible.

A world without NPC's that you can talk to would be rather boring I think. I mean how could you order orange juice from a bartender that can't speak. The only person I wouldn't let you talk to direclty would be Jesus, but Jesus on itself would speak, for example, at the sermon on the mount. But I wouldn't let him say anything that is not in the bible.

Anyway, I'm not sure I have the means to start such a big project right now, but its exciting to think about. When the time comes ...

buddboy

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Yah... That's what I was thinking... Have Jesus in it, but don't talk to him cuz that would be weird... And I don't think it would be right either... I don't know about not naming Jesus in it might be a good idea, might not be... I know!! You are a roman who is confused by what you see in Jesus, and you don't really know who he is or anything, and so you are trying to follow him and find out about him... Maybe eventually you could be like the soldier who says that he is the Christ, the Son of God (or whatever he says when Jesus is dying)... I dunno, anybody like the Roman idea? (i'm not so sure about the thing with the soldier, maybe it could have you there, and the soldier says it... and that's it...)
Hey Vincent I like your avvy!!
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crazyishone

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perhaps you dont directly call him "Jesus". That actually makes it more fun. You are the person who has heard rumors, and u want to see him....u could potentially end up on a few wild goose chases...

as far as speaking to him goes, just use stuff he actually sed.
the player is given options for speech, just like in most rpg's, and the "Jesus" NPC responds accordingly, and with an actual quote from the Bible. As long as it makes sense in the context, it is all good. Plus, this opens a new dimension of the game:::::::::::::::::;;

a person could be conversing with the NPC and might trigger an event, which could be a parable. (One we actually know of. He had thousands of parables, and how many are actually recorded? Its best not to toy with the unknowns.)

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vincent

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Well, I like all ideas posted here, but keep in mind that its not a game. Its more like a community.
Jari

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quote:
Originally posted by vincent:

A world without NPC's that you can talk to would be rather boring I think. I mean how could you order orange juice from a bartender that can't speak. The only person I wouldn't let you talk to direclty would be Jesus, but Jesus on itself would speak, for example, at the sermon on the mount. But I wouldn't let him say anything that is not in the bible.

Indeed, that's what I meant. That only Jesus' could not be spoken to.

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For the zeal of thine house hath eaten me up; and the reproaches of them that reproached thee are fallen upon me. - Psa 69:9
He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. - Joh 12:25

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