I have been thinking how to make a educational game about the events in the OT (mostly about the Israel).
One of the important things you have to note is how the God's chosen people of Israel turned into their own ways to worship their false gods despite the fact how great miracles God had shown to them and blessed them. And when they repented God took them back but it didn't take too long until they we're back doing what is bad.
The whole Bible shows us how foolish man can be and how easily man forsakes he's Saviour and only God just because they don't see Him and start worshipping something visible.
OK I believe you all know that.

So the idea is that player is a king or some other character with authority, trying to keep the nation of Israel loyal to God. The play area could be one city which is viewed from "bird view" and there are buildings and farms and just about anything real city had at that time. And the people are walking in the streets and roads going to their daily work.
But the area also has hills where people tend to go and sacrifice to their false gods. They also make graven images and other bad things.

Now players job is to preach the laws written in the book of Moses to the people so that they would stay away from their wicked ways. Also as a king player could issue orders to the guards to keep the city "clean".
For preaching, priests are needed and player needs to maintain temple and make sure there are enough workers. The priest however can be un-loyal to God too and player (as a king) needs to keep close look on he's workers (both guards and priest) that they are working and not contributing to the worship of false gods.

So that is the main idea.

This would also be educational not just by showing how man forsakes God from time to time and God forgives, but it would also include verses which player needs to refer in order counter act the peoples evil actions. As example player needs to tell the priest which message should be preached to the people at given time. But in order to pick the right verses player needs to either know Bible well or consult the elders of the city. This can be an additional level of challenge if there are false prophets.

It could be made simply top down, or side viewed 2D. Or ISO metric. Or even full 3D. But I think top down 2D or ISO metric are the best solutions.

The game could be expanded to be city building game also giving an extra level of challenge. The other option is to make the cities and make them playable as scenarios.

One thing to avoid is involving God in a way that God would do or say something in the game. Instead every word and command of God in game must be found from the Bible.

What do you think?

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And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him. - Col 3:17

Unless the LORD builds the house, they labor in vain who build it; unless the LORD keeps the city, the watchman stays awake in vain. - Psalms 127:1

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And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him. - Col 3:17

Unless the LORD builds the house, they labor in vain who build it; unless the LORD keeps the city, the watchman stays awake in vain. - Psalms 127:1

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And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him. - Col 3:17

Unless the LORD builds the house, they labor in vain who build it; unless the LORD keeps the city, the watchman stays awake in vain. - Psalms 127:1

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And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him. - Col 3:17

Unless the LORD builds the house, they labor in vain who build it; unless the LORD keeps the city, the watchman stays awake in vain. - Psalms 127:1

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What do others think, is this good or bad idea?

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And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him. - Col 3:17

Unless the LORD builds the house, they labor in vain who build it; unless the LORD keeps the city, the watchman stays awake in vain. - Psalms 127:1

I like how it shows how our natural tendency is toward sin, and how much we need a savior.

Sounds like a neat game!

--clint

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http://www.includingjudas.com/christiangame.html

Any other comments? Questions? Please critique too if you want, I want to do this right or leave it undone.

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And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him. - Col 3:17

Unless the LORD builds the house, they labor in vain who build it; unless the LORD keeps the city, the watchman stays awake in vain. - Psalms 127:1

Nah, I'm kidding, don't listen to me.

I actually think the game idea is good. I like to think of ways that people can enjoy learning the bible and have a good time at the same time (though I guess those two should always go hand in hand.)

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Originally posted by vincent:

I actually think the game idea is good. I like to think of ways that people can enjoy learning the bible and have a good time at the same time (though I guess those two should always go hand in hand.)

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Yeah and yeah!

I have been working on this idea some hopefully can post first screen shots soon. I still have lot to learn about paragui (which I'm going to use for the GUI's) and plan how to make this game work like it's supposed to.

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And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him. - Col 3:17

Unless the LORD builds the house, they labor in vain who build it; unless the LORD keeps the city, the watchman stays awake in vain. - Psalms 127:1

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Originally posted by vincent:
Could we include the 'smite' function, with lightning and stuff?

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Go ahead and do that...our lawyers are standing by. :P

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Originally posted by Gump:
Go ahead and do that...our lawyers are standing by. :P

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What do you mean? Have you copyrighted the 'smite' function?

Your lawyers work in vain for God owns the rights for smiting!

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And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him. - Col 3:17

Unless the LORD builds the house, they labor in vain who build it; unless the LORD keeps the city, the watchman stays awake in vain. - Psalms 127:1

It's very simple top-down as you can see. What I'm trying to do is to create city where people do their daily jobs at farms and walk in the streets and then put the actual idea on top of that. So the game is also about building and managing city.

Well still long way to go with this one.

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It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise, than for a man to hear the song of fools. - Ecc 7:5

[VoHW]

I would love to help with art, but it's not exactly my forte, and I don't think I could do any better than you've done. Overall, good job!

--clint

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[VoHW]

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Originally posted by HanClinto:
Out of curiosity, are you using Cegui? What are you coding this in?

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No, paragui actually and SDL.

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[VoHW]

Im more or less a 3d artist.. if you wanted to make this into a 3d game, top down iso. I can definetly help and would love to.

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Originally posted by Matherhorn:

Im more or less a 3d artist.. if you wanted to make this into a 3d game, top down iso. I can definetly help and would love to.

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Ok thanks! I'll keep that in mind because for now I'm just going stay on the top-down, because I haven't programmed ISO before and I don't have much time for this project at the moment.
But I will keep posting updates to this thread in every month or so.

Welcome to the forums btw!

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[This message has been edited by jari (edited October 21, 2005).]

So is any one interested to help compiling the release build?

Edit: Nevermind, I found a new building solution. Just need to fix the introduced bugs...

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He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. - Joh 12:25
I receive not honour from men. - Joh 5:41

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do you want t use some ground tiles i made before? (i will talk to you on MSN about it)

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Originally posted by kiwee:
do you want t use some ground tiles i made before? (i will talk to you on MSN about it)

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Ok sure. I'm not focusing on the graphics much yet but if you think they fit the scene then why not.

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He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. - Joh 12:25
I receive not honour from men. - Joh 5:41

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You can download the windows installer from here

This is just a very simple demonstration of the work in progress.
The game idea it self isn't implemented yet as this is only the foundation for it.

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He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. - Joh 12:25
I receive not honour from men. - Joh 5:41

[VoHW] (Help needed) [Blog] - Truedisciple (mp3)

[This message has been edited by jari (edited December 07, 2005).]

pllzz!

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(yes, i know im stupid)

Blessed are those who suffer for doing what is right.
The kingdom of hevan bleongs to them.-Matthew 5:10

PM ME YOUR DESCRIPTION OF ME! ILL PUT IT HERE!

Here's all the comments!

The screen shot doesn't tell much about it.

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He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. - Joh 12:25
I receive not honour from men. - Joh 5:41

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Originally posted by kiwee:
it doesn't work...

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Interesting. I think you need the .Net framework in order to run it... but shouldn't that come with windows XP?
Does it do/say anything at all when you run it?

Edit: I'm using VS C++ 2005 express to compile this, does any one know if it makes exe's depend on .NET?

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He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. - Joh 12:25
I receive not honour from men. - Joh 5:41

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For the zeal of thine house hath eaten me up; and the reproaches of them that reproached thee are fallen upon me. - Psa 69:9
He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. - Joh 12:25

[VoHW] (Help needed) [Blog] - Truedisciple (mp3)

P.S. that smite thing was funny...

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<*bowing*> Thank you, Thank you!! It's too much, the accolades, really!! </*bowing*>

JUST KIDDING! I hope you like it tho!!

(sorry if u don't want me to do it... i just didn't have anything to do and this was fun... plus i hope you can use it... make your game look just a leetlebetter!! i mean, whats a village without paths!!)

HERE IT IS!!

I know it looks a little weird big, but if you put it in a paint program and zoom way out, it looks like it is sand or something... I intended for those squares to look like footprints but i guess they don't either big or small... Oh well it still looks good I THINK...

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Originally posted by buddboy:
I think this is a great idea... You could do a sequel (eventually don't want to look too far ahead) that could be in like Medieval england right after William of Normandy (i think thats his name) takes it over and so the fuedal system is in place... and you're a nobleman who gets saved right after he is given a castle and some peasants... But the peasants are all pagans and you have to show them the love of god to get them to believe because you can't just sent out knights to round em up and put them in the dungeon until they convert... It's just an idea!! But i really like whats been done so far from the ideas brought up and the screenies... Keep up the good work!!

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Thanks for the idea. I plannend that the people we're israelis but I suppose there could be maps based in england too. It really depends on whos going to make the medieval buildings.
Then on a second thought, english wouldn't have sacrifices and all the things Israel had so it would take part of the idea way if there would be english peasants instead of Israel people.

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For the zeal of thine house hath eaten me up; and the reproaches of them that reproached thee are fallen upon me. - Psa 69:9
He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. - Joh 12:25

[VoHW] (Help needed) [Blog] - Truedisciple (mp3)

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Originally posted by buddboy:
I have a tile pic here!! I HOPE YOU WANT IT CUZ I'M UPLOADING IT!!

<*bowing*> Thank you, Thank you!! It's too much, the accolades, really!! </*bowing*>

JUST KIDDING! I hope you like it tho!!

(sorry if u don't want me to do it... i just didn't have anything to do and this was fun... plus i hope you can use it... make your game look just a leetlebetter!! i mean, whats a village without paths!!)

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Thanks.
You are right the village needs paths but I was actually thinking differend kind of approach for creating them. And I really have to think about this what kind of graphics the game will use in the end before starting to do finished graphics. It might be a ISO or full 3D - have to think about it but I would also like to keep graphics simple as bossible.

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For the zeal of thine house hath eaten me up; and the reproaches of them that reproached thee are fallen upon me. - Psa 69:9
He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. - Joh 12:25

[VoHW] (Help needed) [Blog] - Truedisciple (mp3)

Game Demo Download

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For the zeal of thine house hath eaten me up; and the reproaches of them that reproached thee are fallen upon me. - Psa 69:9
He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. - Joh 12:25

[VoHW] (Help needed) [Blog] - Truedisciple (mp3)