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yeah, en, so no making a Arbiter game without my permission. lol.

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Furthermore, our whole society is built upon the ideas of others. Also, I can almost guarantee that many of the ideas any of us use in our games have been influenced by other games/movies we have watched. Usualy, many people will get very similiar ideas after watching the same movie (or combination of movies/games).

Sorry, but you rate your own importance too highly! However, I do hope that you can pool resources and work together. If not, then whats the harm in having two sim pastor games anyway - especialy if yours is free??

God Bless,
Rhy

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Originally posted by en972:
Theres been alot of talk about "SIm Pastor"

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Well.. I was working on a game called Sim Preacher Man, you think thats too similar?

Just KIDDING!!!

I remember reading a thread where you bought up this game idea, It sounds like a lot for fun. Good Luck!

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Originally posted by Rhyolite:
I agree it would be better to pool resources and that we should not steal another persons idea 'whole piece'. However, to assume that other people can not have come up with the same idea as yourself is rather arrogant. I continualy get frustrated when I see a great idea I had for a game get released!!

Furthermore, our whole society is built upon the ideas of others. Also, I can almost guarantee that many of the ideas any of us use in our games have been influenced by other games/movies we have watched. Usualy, many people will get very similiar ideas after watching the same movie (or combination of movies/games).

Sorry, but you rate your own importance too highly! However, I do hope that you can pool resources and work together. If not, then whats the harm in having two sim pastor games anyway - especialy if yours is free??

God Bless,
Rhy

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Your right dude, I'm sorry. this topic was pretty stupid. All of you who have ideas on this, press on. I'm intrested in seeing what you got

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Rhy

if you both come up with the same idea, fine, no harm there. But en did come up with Sim Pastor( the actual name is Man of God, i believe.. make sure not to rip off Maxis) and talk spawned after that. it is his intellectual property. It is not arrogant, just as it's not arrogant to claim an item as yours.. either that or your a commie.

Society may be built on ideas of others, but it never should be built off of stealing other's ideas. he's not rating his own importance, just claiming his own creation. granted he doesn't get to own all pastor simulation, but taking up his own idea is unethical.

but, en, on one note, becareful when giving out your game ideas, unless they are meant for public consumtion.

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I guess from now on I wont give out my ideas, but this is a free game so who cares? oh, and some advice to those who want to do an idea like this (like arch said) be sure not to use the words, "sim"

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From my first post:
"I agree it would be better to pool resources and that we should not steal another persons idea 'whole piece'."

Glad we are all in agreement. My point was only about ideas that have developed seperatly (but often in a similar manner) amongst several people. That is what I believed happened in this situation? If an idea was actualy stolen, then yeah, I would be niffed as well.

God Bless,
Rhy

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so have you done much yet? got any screens? love to see them.

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Actually it was my idea... hmpf... whatever.
and EA pretty much owns the word "SIM"...

so have you done much yet? got any screens? love to see them.

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Sorry I dont have any screens. I only have a few models. And an animation. If mattiethomas says I can post it, I'll post the animation. Max is writing up some stuff.

Hey bwoogie, wanna help make the game?

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so, can i help??

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actually, I'd disagree with Ryholite... NEVER steal someone else's idea.
get inspiration, sure, but blatant ripping off is robbery.
if you want to use the idea, ask the person.

if you both come up with the same idea, fine, no harm there. But en did come up with Sim Pastor( the actual name is Man of God, i believe.. make sure not to rip off Maxis) and talk spawned after that. it is his intellectual property. It is not arrogant, just as it's not arrogant to claim an item as yours.. either that or your a commie.

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check out: http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/homesteading/
It's got some interesting info on how the Open Source community deals with this stuff you've been chatting about.

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you read this topic;
http://www.christiancoders.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/postdisplay.cgi?forum=Forum5&topic=0000 99

so, can i help??

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Sure

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so....what joo want me to do?

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What Am I supposed to say?

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Just say, "En says I'm supposed to teach you wings 3d"

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What are you programming this in?

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C++

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OOOOOOO C++, I learned how to do hello world in C++.... yeah, I need to read more... it's not that much different from VB, just a different language... new commands to do the same things...

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Oh so that's why I couldn't figure it out! It's different! DOH!

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hey have any of you guys read This Present Darkness by Frank Pertti? Good book, and the pastor gets to rebuke a few deamons too, that would be a cool feature in your game.

Sorry, couldn't help myself

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I havn't heard from you!

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Sim Pastor, sounds Great!

hey have any of you guys read [b]This Present Darkness by Frank Pertti? Good book, and the pastor gets to rebuke a few http://www.christiancoders.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/postings.cgi?action=reply&forum=Game+Design,+Music,+and+Art&number=5&topic=000097.cgi&TopicSubject=Sim+Pastor&replyto=29
Reply w/Quotedeamons too, that would be a cool feature in your game.

Sorry, couldn't help myself

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Never got a chance to read it. But thats a great idea! Will definitly consider.

And max, no I didn not recieve. My parents probably deleted it..sig...Can you send it all in a pm?

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Thanks!

--clint

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I looked at Irrlicht -- it looks like there's at least one 2d game up there for their demos, and some other interesting ones. It seems as though it could be used for a game like that pretty well.

Hrm... I'm trying to think of which engine you're referring to... I think I've probably talked about both TrueVision3D and RealmForge on here before. Both are free to different extents -- TrueVision3D has a free version but it displays a watermark in the corner unless you pay for it, and RealmForge is completely free (but it's still in alpha -- not even to beta yet).

RealmForge is for C#, and is built on top of Axiom -- the C# port of OGRE. Axiom is on a similar level to Irrlicht as far as usability afaik.

Sadly, I know very little about using 3D engines. I'm more of a 2D kindof guy myself, and so I'd be more than capable to talk about SDL and DirectDraw and all those other things, but if you wanted to know how to use a 3D engine or which one would be good to use, I'm not your man.

Brandon has done some great stuff with 3D, though.

Does that answer your question?

You can e-mail me at hanclinto at gmail dot com if you want to discuss this stuff further off the boards.

In Christ,
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I dunno... I've used Irrlicht some in the past, and it's just as good as anything else that I've used. Something that could make it easier for programming the actual code for the game is to first design a simple entity\wrapper set of classes that would help in calling the functions dealing with your entities, tranforming the meshes, billboards, 3D Sounds etc... For example, if you wanted to load a character and some walk, run, or jump animations for him you could have something like:

Entity* person = new Entity(); person->LoadMesh("person.x"); person->LoadMeshAnim("person_walk.x",0); person->LoadMeshAnim("person_run.x",1); person->LoadMeshAnim("person_jump.x",2); if ( keys[VK_RIGHT] ){ person->Move(1,0,0); //move player person->Anim(0); //walk }

instead doing something like this everytime:

//It's a mesh if(inent->ent){ //move player rotMat.setRotationDegrees(inent->ent->getRotation()); vector3df vRot = vector3df(x,y,z); rotMat.transformVect(vRot); vector3df vVec = inent->ent->getPosition(); vVec+=vRot; inent->ent->setPosition(vVec); }

Wow! I just looked at the Irrlicht homepage, and it looks like they've been pretty busy since I've last been there! You'll probably be cool sticking with Irrlicht for sure.

Hey, I've got a question, what are you guys using for making the levels? CShop may be a good bet http://www.leadwerks.com

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If I were a drummer I would use a cymbal.
If I were a writer I would use a pencil.
I would use my voice if I were a singer.
No matter who or what we are we must praise.