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Would anyone be interested in... – brandon

Brandon

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... a Christian RPG that is simular to "Final Fantasy Tactics"?

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What I mean by it being simular to FFT is by fighting techniques, in-depth story, ya know that kind of stuff. Not the magic and such, cause it's a Christian game with a strong Christian message. I'll have more info shortly...


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HanClinto

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Interesting!

I never played FFT, but as far as if I think there is possibility for a great Christian game in that genre, I totally think so! IMO, the Final Fantasy series has been one of the more successful genres to insert their (albeit wrong) theology into the gameplay.

Blessings on your project! I know that if it's submitted here, I would definately check it out!

Respectfully,
clint

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bennythebear

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i really like the gameplay of fft, but the whole "preaching" thing they have is making a mockery of God, so i had to stop playing it. is it going to be strait Christian, like battleing for souls type game, or just one with a Christian underlining? but anyway, i'm pretty interested in that sorta game.

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Brandon

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Hi guys. Thanks, I totally agree hanclinto, and yep benny it's going to be a straight Christian game. It will also have many plot twists and suprises throughout. I do aim to have the graphics a bit more in the 3D realm than FFT's tho'. And I have a really cool idea for character classes that I'm working through right now

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"While the funniest thing that He's done,"
"Is love this whole stubborn rebellious world,"
"While the hate for Him just goes on."

bennythebear

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cool, keep us updated. i'd like to hear what your doing for classes, and what the main objective in the game is going to be. also what kind of enemies...well whenever you get all that sorta stuff figured out you can fill us in

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Max

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It would be very hard to make it christian without the fact that you are killing other people.

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Brandon

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Yeah I agree that killing other people would make it very non-Christian, but there won't be any people killed in this game, the fighting will be against the enemy. I'll keep you updated!

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"So many laughing at Jesus,"
"While the funniest thing that He's done,"
"Is love this whole stubborn rebellious world,"
"While the hate for Him just goes on."

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HanClinto

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Great!

I look forward to seeing your progress!

In Christ,
clint

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Max

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what is the enemy? Are you gonna have demons? If it is people you are still killing people. Good luck in everything, just wanted to askt aht question! I would make sure to avoid killing humans.
Max

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Brandon

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Hi Max! Yeah no human beings are going to be killed in the game, neither by the enemy (who are demons and the lusts of the flesh) or by any other means. This may sound wierd, fighting against the lusts of the flesh, but I'm working through some ideas atm


For more on the topic of violence in games, I've created another topic
here


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"So many laughing at Jesus,"
"While the funniest thing that He's done,"
"Is love this whole stubborn rebellious world,"
"While the hate for Him just goes on."

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bennythebear

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it makes perfect since to fight the lusts of the flesh, cause that's what we fight every day. it also sounds interesting, something i would actually play, not that all the other Christian games(that i've seen) are crappy, just not the style of games that i'm into.

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HanClinto

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As a brother in Christ, let me encourage you all when making games that portray "fighting against the lusts of the flesh", that one does so in a way that is accurate to real life and real struggle.

I don't know how many of you struggle with sexual sin, but from my own personal experience, it's not something that one can sit and battle it out. The only way I've ever had victory in any battle against sexual sin is by fleeing from the temptation through the enabling of God. Without God, I would not be able to flee, but the fleeing must occur. If I think, "Oh, I'll just sit here and not sin", that doesn't happen -- I always fall.

It's important to remember that the demons of temptation never die or go away, it's just that their arrows are made a lot less effective. When we're fighting against lust, we're not fighting against actual demons themselves as much as just their arrows of doubt and temptation that they throw at us. You can swing all you want at the arrow, but you're just hitting the air. Trying to fight temptation directly is like trying to box with an archer who's standing 100 yards away -- you can't do a whole lot.

Just my 2 cents -- this is just my opinion, though I happen to feel it is one of the more scripturally accurate ways of looking at and dealing with temptation.

In Christ,
clint

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Mattiethomas

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Thats a pretty good idea. I hope to see more on this soon.

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Brandon

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Yeah I agree hanclinto, that will definately be taken into consideration, there are so many different possiblities, which is exciting!

Thanks mattiethomas, and welcome!

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"Is love this whole stubborn rebellious world,"
"While the hate for Him just goes on."

Max

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When you battle them you gain a temporary victory and a reprieve. I think the idea is a great one and that it will be a great portrayal of a Christian's every day battles.

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Brandon

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Yeah that is a great idea, thanks Max! Something like that can be used with or in-place of the traditional exp. system found in most RPG's

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HanClinto

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Hey Brandon!

Neat character head you've got rendered in your avatar -- is that from the new game?

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Brandon

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Hey! Thanks hanclinto, yeah that's a CG picture of a character from one of our game projects. It's been in development on and off for quite some time now, mainly because it's such a large project. But, he isn't a character in this current game though. We have to do smaller games like this one first, then hopefully we can work on the larger one full time! I'm not sure if we'll bother with CG movies in this current game yet.

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goop2

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Just dont make it like forgivness, where the guy goes to get the "magic bulb" and it dosent work, so they pray for the person instead. That was prety lame.

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Brandon

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Hmm? I haven't played forgivness that much. Isn't that the one by Breakthrough Gaming? Nah, this game will be 3D, and we're planning on designing it with an "in-house" game engine, which has been in the development process for about a year.

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Originally posted by goop2:
Just dont make it like forgivness, where the guy goes to get the "magic bulb" and it dosent work, so they pray for the person instead. That was prety lame.


lol. I actually really found Forgiveness incredibly funny. You have to take that game with a grain of salt, but I found a lot of the things in there really funny. (like how the bad guys stole all of the furniture in the land so that the game creator didn't have to use furniture sprites), etc etc.

But yes, I agree, for a larger game intended at a broader audience, most of the audience would consider it "lame".

I for one, really enjoyed it for what it was.

--Clint

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Brandon

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like how the bad guys stole all of the furniture in the land so that the game creator didn't have to use furniture sprites

LOL, that's hilarious... I'll play it again when I get the chance


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goop2

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The funiture thing was prety good. And the battle system was very impressive. But the storyline (other than the stupidity of the bad guys) was quite lame.

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