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CoolJ

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Hi all , I'm new here, but I'm very interested in making and contributing to the creation of Christian games. Here's a game idea someone can use if you want. Does this sound like a good game and easy to make, or do you see problems with it.

Game design and play is very similar to Slay http://game.downloadatoz.com/slay/

But instead of Spearmen, Knights, Barons, you have:

Believers
Missionaries
Apostles

vs

Nonbelievers
Athiests
Cult Leaders

Even if you are spiritually stronger, you have to answer a bible trivia question to win a battle. If you are attacked, then you can successfully defend by answering a bible trivia question correct.

D-SIPL

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So will you be attacked by humans then?

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CoolJ

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Hi D-SIPL,

You would be attacked by npcs that represent humans - nonbelievers, athiests, and cult leaders . Though being attacked is more like being able to or not being able to stand up for what you believe when faced with confrontation - being attacked spiritually.

You play against 1 to 4 AI opposition groups, each with their own 'army' comprised of the above 3 types of 'soldiers'.

You wouldn't have a choice of sides, you can only play as Christian.

Maybe there could be a multi-player but it would be coop.

Hmmm..you got me thinking.. instead of just random trivia from the bible, maybe the questions asked would be 'answers from the bible' to questions that nonbelievers, athiests, and cult members ask us in real life?

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I think it sounds dumb... but thats just me...

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ArchAngel

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I'm a little unconfortable about attacking humans. if it's a war game, then fine, but a christian game? our war is not against flesh, but all those spirtual dudes. (ephesians 6)
but, I guess you seem to make it more of a battle of wits, and debates then a fight... which makes it not uncomfortable, but..
which is my personal opinion, I think those kind of games are... um, boring. quizzes is what I do in school, not games. again, my personal opinion, and there seems to be somewhat of a market for those kind of games. after all, I do come across them.

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CoolJ

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Yea, I can't tell how fun the game would be really. I don't really think of it as attacking. I guess it would depend if you think missionaries are attacking when they are witnessing. Or the apostles were attacking when they were spreading the word. I do know people sometimes just mentioning God around them makes you think you just threw a punch at them!
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It sounds like you have the bases of a good game. It's just the whole killing humans things. Maybe they can be represented in some other way? People could interpret it in a different way and label your game violent towards humans.

Hope this helps.

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goop2

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I dont think the violence twards humans is that bad... but I still think it sounds dumb. Its probabaly the kinds of people that make me think that...

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True = False
False = Goop
Goop = 2
2 = Goop2
Whish I knew what that meant...

D-SIPL

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quote:
Originally posted by Goop2:
I dont think the violence twards humans is that bad... but I still think it sounds dumb. Its probabaly the kinds of people that make me think that...


I wouldn't personally play a christian game that encouraged violence against humans. demons yes.

Remember: For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers

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ArchAngel

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and those other spirtual dudes. haha.


since you use quiz and trivia, it looks as more of debating and witnessing. might want to have them convert to your side. so, instead of killing someone, they merely switched sides... many cool games have that feature.

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D-SIPL

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quote:
Originally posted by ArchAngel:
and those other spirtual dudes. haha.


since you use quiz and trivia, it looks as more of debating and witnessing. might want to have them convert to your side. so, instead of killing someone, they merely switched sides... many cool games have that feature.


or take it back to old testament times and let the Lord smite them!

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CoolJ

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quote:
Originally posted by D-SIPL:
It's just the whole killing humans things. Maybe they can be represented in some other way? People could interpret it in a different way and label your game violent towards humans.

Yea, I guess you would not really be killing them. But having them 'disappear' would probably imply they got smoked. So converting them, maybe thier ranks would decrease and your ranks would increase by x number of forces. I would probably have them convert as believers.

goop2

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Ever played final fantasy? You know how HUMANS attack you and you kill them? Does that encourage violence towards humans? If someone came up to you with an uzzie would you fight or do a jig? :P
And whats that not a war agianst flesh and blood thing??? Is that something you made up?

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True = False
False = Goop
Goop = 2
2 = Goop2
Whish I knew what that meant...

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ArchAngel

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it's from the Bible. Ephesians 6:12
"For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world-rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. "

NIV, i think, uses war instead of wrestling.

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Matthias

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Yah, comeon, I learned that verse in AWANA! he hee!

Well, in the final fantasy's there was a lot of fighting w/ humans but it was usually to good cause, like saving the planet or the Ancients or something. Also in FFX there were mostly just beasts and machina (that's machines), but there were also the Al-Bed (Humans) and the Guado (kind of human-ish...). I'm kinda not playing final fantasy anymore now though cause of magic... i don't like magic... and neither does God apparently.

okay, well the game sounds somewhat promising. Work hard!

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goop2

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Ya but heres the thing.

Man comes up behind you with a gun.

Man:Get your hands up!
You put out your hand.
You:Hi Im D-SIPL whats your name?

or

Man:Get your hands up!
You turn and point a gun.
You:Not this time butthead

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bennythebear

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ok goop...think of it like this.

guy walks up behind you and says "put your hands up!"
you do as he wants and you live, and go on.

or

guy walks up behind you and says "put your hands up!"
you start to turn around and draw your gun as he fires 6 shots into your body and you have the chance of dieing and going to hell because you had the intentions of taking a mans life as you were killed.

just one set of scenarios...

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bennythebear

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oh, and just incase your weren't aiming to take his life but just scare him, it would still be a foolish move.

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HeardTheWord

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I completely agree that Christian games should tone down violence. Fantasy is a good way to portray that which is evil. Also you could just use the Angels vs Demons concept. We are currently battling with this issue in our project.

I still believe that you can make a fun game without randomly killing enemies (especially humans). People enjoy the FPS games that are out there now because they pull you away from your chair, into the game. Others enjoy simplistic controls or the storyline. Not because you get to shoot someone at point blank range and spread them across the wall (sorry to those that don't like this imagery).

goop2

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What about the guts? :P I guess I gave a bad example...
I dont realy think slay looks any good. But instead of killing (if you dont like that) then howabout teaching? You could teach them about God (but dont actualy have them talking cause that gets very annoying) And have them start to work for you?

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ArchAngel

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do you want to play a game about teaching?
I wouldn't consider even checking out a game like that.

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CoolJ

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quote:
Game design and play is very similar to Slay http://game.downloadatoz.com/slay/
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I know I posted this, but I don't think this would be as fun as I thought. Now I'm thinking it's only one step above making a christian game based on checkers How fun would that be. Of course, I might change my mind again...

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ArchAngel:
do you want to play a game about teaching?
I wouldn't consider even checking out a game like that.



A game only about teaching might not be fun, but teaching sometimes could be interesting. A lot of RPGs have npcs teaching you as the main character. In turn you gain some knowledge importing to progressing in the game or your stats are effected afterwards. Or sometimes it just builds the story. Why can't you teach npcs or other ppl in a online game? There might be a begger asks for gps to buy food. Instead you give him a fishing poll and show him how to fish. Later on you see him having a fish fry along the river with his kids, laughing, having a good time. This would definitly bump your morale points if nothing else.


Mattiethomas

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So, if you would answer the Bible question wrong then your guy dies? lol, it seems interesting.

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