Realizing what some words mean can also be good. For example, "Amen" doesn't mean, "Dismissed", lol No! It means that you agree, I find it nice if I acknowledge that I need not be still or doing only prayer, although that is important to pray then too, but acknowledge that my prayerlife extends to after the Amen and continuously.

P.S. Hows that for my first Christian post as a Christian Coder?
Additionally, I might add that it is respectful to do the little things, capitalizing Christ, and such. I mean, if we capitalize places, and people should we not capitalize our Lord, and Savior who died on the cross for us?

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Thought travels much faster than sound, it is better to think something twice, and say it once, than to think something once, and have to say it twice.
"Frogs and Fauns! The tournament!" - Professor Winneynoodle/HanClinto

[This message has been edited by Mene-Mene (edited December 03, 2006).]

Personally I think using any of the above is all right.

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Originally posted by Lazarus:
Which name to use, though? Some people use Jesus, some use Yeshua, some use Jehovah, some use Yahweh(my Dad), some use Lord, some use God, or another one.

Personally I think using any of the above is all right.

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Well, Jesus is the name given to us but it's in our heart where we pray in His name.

Act 4:10-12 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. - 11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. - 12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

If we say just lord it may be just a word to us but if we pray in the name of Lord Jesus Christ, then - at least I - feel the difference.

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1Jo 2:9-10 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. 10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.
Joh 17:26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.

[VoHW] (Help needed) [Blog] - Truedisciple (mp3)

On an additional note, just use whatever you're comfortable with.
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Thought travels much faster than sound, it is better to think something twice, and say it once, than to think something once, and have to say it twice.
"Frogs and Fauns! The tournament!" - Professor Winneynoodle/HanClinto

[This message has been edited by Mene-Mene (edited December 04, 2006).]

haha.

Repititions prayer is a bad habit, and I find myself falling into that habit WAAAYYYY to often, but if nothing interesting happens that day, tis kinda hard not to repeat yourself.

Okay, admittedly we all need work..

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Lazarus: I think Lazarus is right, but its good to use some of his meaningful names depending upon the need. Ex. I'm praying for healing over sickness, so I might use Jehovah Rophe, which means "The Lord Heals" see?

On an additional note, just use whatever you're comfortable with.

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I agree with your last sentence the most...

Since basically saying "Jehovah Rophe" is the same as saying "The Lord Who Heals", it's simply a different language. The words aren't what matters but the meaning and that you are refering to God (which I have no doubt he knows when you are talking to him). I strongly beleive that God doesn't require a special handshake and fully understand any language we may use to address him in. Though I do agree that people should whatever they're "comfortable with".

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GarageGames

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I'm not saying you must shout what you pray, but think before you speak, and mean what you say.

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I couldn't agree more. In fact if you are just praying out of habbit with no real meaning behind it I would rather not pray at all, since it would be meaningless and almost an insult to Go.

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GarageGames

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Thought travels much faster than sound, it is better to think something twice, and say it once, than to think something once, and have to say it twice.
"Frogs and Fauns! The tournament!" - Professor Winneynoodle/HanClinto

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I understand you can say anything you want, from Jehovah Mekadesh to Big Guy (I'm not so sure about that one)

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Just to make sure, I definately didn't get the implication that you were forcing these names on anyone You portrayed them very respectfully, in fact most times I hear people talk about the names of God they usually take on a stuffy holier than thou tone about it. You didn't and I respect that.

lol "Big Guy"... can't help but imagine praying to God calling him that. I guess if done respectfully and in good humor God would probably be laughing

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but the different names are addressing God's special characteristics. It is understanding the different abilities, and characteristics of what God can, has, is, and will do.

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Agreed completely. I definately agree with studying the difference aspects in which God interacts with us.

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I'm not quite sure that it is the same as "The Lord Who Heals". For example, Cyphus (I think that may be wrong, anyway, Peter) means "Rock", but it isn't the same as saying, Rock.

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True... though there is one major difference... there are two words...

Jehovah Rapha

That would be like saying

Peter Rapha

Seems much more like a title than anything, like saying:

"Lord the Healer"

Much different than a name of a person that has an alternate meaning, the meaning is the name in this case. Not so much a name but a title.

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It is addressing the name's characteristics. (This was paid more attention in older times) God doesn't require it but it is a good thing to respect God's different characteristics.

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The part in which I always stop myself and cannot cause myself to use these names is mainly because it makes me feel fake. Why would I address God by a name in a language that is not my primary tongue. Why would I cal him,

Jehovah Rapha

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Lord the Healer

To me it just becomes far to superfluous and even to the point of being superficial (again this is just me, so if it doesn't feel this way to you then I am not downplaying your actions).

On the other hand I would agree that God would respect and appreciate the effort you would be doing to use those names. Just like I think he would appreciate the effort just the same if I made up my own appropriate title for him that represented his characteristics.

In any case I respect and agree with you when you say people should use what they are comfortable with. In the end if you think that some title in another language is going to gain favor with God on its own then it's obviously for the wrong reasons, but if you give him proper titles (in any language) with true intent I think he appreciates it the same. God sees beyond language barriers.

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GarageGames

Luk 11:1 KJV And it came to pass, that, as he was praying in a certain place, when he ceased, one of his disciples said unto him, Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples.

Luk 11:2 KJV And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.

Hallowed/Holy is His be His name! Seperated from other names for there is only one name and that is Jesus.
If we look at how many ways God is referred to in the Bible and try to pray according to these names we are using letters and words but it is the spirit that gives life not the letter (2Co 3:6).

As english you may say "Jesus" but I say "Jeesus" (its finnish) but what matters is that we say "God almighty creator of all things, who's is the kindom of heaven, who forgives sins and who is one and only everlasting holy God, the Father" - in spirit.

I hope you see what I mean, words doesn't matter if we dont pray in spirit and in truth.

Joh 4:23-24 KJV But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. - 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

God bless.

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1Jo 2:9-10 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. 10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.
Joh 17:26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.

[VoHW] (Help needed) [Blog] - Truedisciple (mp3)

[This message has been edited by jari (edited December 14, 2006).]

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Thought travels much faster than sound, it is better to think something twice, and say it once, than to think something once, and have to say it twice.
"Frogs and Fauns! The tournament!" - Professor Winneynoodle/HanClinto

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whatever you use, mean it

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Definately one thing I think we can all agree on

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you've never heard God Father? I've heard everything from God Father to Lord God Our Father In Heaven Who Makes The Day To Shine to Jesus Lord to Oh Lord Father God. haha.

I like what you said jari. sometimes it depends on the circumstances.

BTW Amen actually means 'Let all these things be said'. sort of like we're done. and we agree. which is what you said. Thats why like 3/4 of the books in the new testament end with Amen.

I think they all mean God so ok.

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at least you don't pray like at least 5 people pray on stage every year at the Church of God of Prophecy (the denomination I belong to) where it's at least 5 minutes long and half of it is some kind of sermon. haha.

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Instantly I thought of this scripture when you said that:

Matthew 6:5-8

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And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

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1Jo 2:9-10 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. 10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.
Joh 17:26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.

[VoHW] (Help needed) [Blog] - Truedisciple (mp3)

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Thought travels much faster than sound, it is better to think something twice, and say it once, than to think something once, and have to say it twice.
"Frogs and Fauns! The tournament!" - Professor Winneynoodle/HanClinto

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Matthew(22:36-40)"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."
Whose Son Is the Christ

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Thought travels much faster than sound, it is better to think something twice, and say it once, than to think something once, and have to say it twice.
"Frogs and Fauns! The tournament!" - Professor Winneynoodle/HanClinto