WOODY Member Posts: 42 From: Mt. Pleasant, michigan, USA Registered: 10-22-2002 |
Hey guys. Thankx for everything. I decided to start a new topic. Well things seem to be going alot better for me. Last weekend I visited CedarVille in Ohio. I had a blast. The only down fall is I now have a sinus infection, mixed with bronchitis. Um that friend that I said I was talking to on the net. Her name is Mandi dodson, and things are not going to well for her. She still hasn't told me much, but I did find out she has been raped. As for as I can tell she is doing good with that situation. Today is her brithday, and she's turning 17. Could ya just keep her in your prayers. |
silicon_chippy Member Posts: 208 From: Scotland Registered: 10-26-2002 |
No problem Woody. Rape is such a terrible thing, I can't understand how any male would enjoy raping someone. Woody please tell her I am asking after her but don't tell her that you posted her problems on the internet. I would advise you to delete her name from your post as there is always a slender possibility that someone she knows will see it. ------------------ |
ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
k, man, good to hear things are going good for. bad to hear about that girl. she's in my prayers. I'm not gonna say anything about the rapist, because it would have to be censored. ------------------ |
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AtheistAdmirer Member Posts: 13 From: Registered: 11-20-2003 |
rape is so terrible, you really ought to kill a person if youre willing to ruin their life for sexual gain... anyhow, Im so glad youre doing better! remember, Im here for you any time, emails in the profile! ------------------ |
zookey Member Posts: 1902 From: Great Falls, Montana, USA Registered: 04-28-2002 |
quote: well, it isn't for sexual gain------just like men raping men isn't out of a homosexual attraction-------it is the sadistic rush of having control over another human being and making them physically suffer-----and thank God she is still alive-------------hopefully she can help put that jerk behind bars for good-----but man what disgusting people that want to hurt others just out to get a feeling of control!!!!! ------------------ |
Briant Member Posts: 742 From: Stony Plain, Alberta, Canada Registered: 01-20-2001 |
quote: Um, no, your really ought not to. ------------------ |
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ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
I dunno... I'd agree... not personal revenge, but justice. ------------------ |
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Briant Member Posts: 742 From: Stony Plain, Alberta, Canada Registered: 01-20-2001 |
ArchAngel, read AtheistAdmirer's words again. I took him to be saying that the person who commits the rape also ought to kill the person he's raping, rather than just ruin their life for sexual gain. That's *absolutely* wrong. AthiestAdmirer, if I misunderstood you, I apologize, but that's what your words seem to be saying. ------------------ |
D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
Hate the sin, love the sinner. This is the hardest part of all of this, but it is something we are commanded by God to do. The only way that girl will ever get over something like that, is to firstly forgive the person who did it to her... and that sounds really really hard, but thats the truth. --D-SIPL ------------------ |
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ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
Yeah, I agree with both of you, BrianT and D-SPL. true, we have to love the sinner, but we might also have to punish him. yeah, I took it as death penalty for rape. [This message has been edited by ArchAngel (edited November 23, 2003).] |
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D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
quote: We don't have to punish him, God will. --D-SIPL ------------------ |
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ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
quote: true, but God has designated the governement to. ------------------ |
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MadProf Member Posts: 181 From: Larnaka, Cyprus Registered: 01-24-2001 |
Hi all, I would disagree about death penalty, but I disagree with death penalty for anything, not so much from a theological point of view, but from sheer cynicism, and lack of faith in governments. If 10 years later you discover the convicted criminal was innocent, with death penalty you have no way of going back on it. I also have a revulsion for the concept of any person (or persons) taking the life of another person in cold blood. And if not in cold blood, then they are not in a sutable state to decide the persons fate. However, for rape, and other related abominations, certainly punishment will come from God. I believe the primary responcibility of government is firstly to remove the rapist from society so as to leave others free from risk, and secondly to reform, or heal? the rapist. The reason for the latter is that there is no point in allowing an unreformed rapist back into society, even if he/she has had 50 years behind bars! However, if they are _truely_ reformed, and truely healed of any illness or problems beyond their control (ie, mental illness),then there is no real point in keeping them locked up. There are many complex issues here, far more than I can cover, so don't get me wrong, any rape or abuse victim has my greatest sympathy and prayers, but also from a rational objective point of view, a rapist surely needs love and healing too. Read the autobiography of Corrie Ten Boom. Dan "I'm probably wrong anyway" MadProf ------------------ |
c h i e f y Member Posts: 415 From: Surrey, United Kingdom Registered: 03-07-2002 |
quote:sometimes it is not a matter of punishment in many cases we have seen that a criminal will go on committing crimes, unless they are physically restrained e.g in prison this man has raped 1 woman, should he be allowed to rape another? you may say "he won't" - you are prepared to risk it then? so - let's say we risk it and he rapes again, should we even then let god punish him? people who walk the streets in our society enjoy a privelege and that privelege is open to abuse, terrible abuse in some cases IMHO terrible abuse = withdrawal of that privelege ------------------ |
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D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
Oh don't get me wrong, they should be locked up, and dealt with according to the law of our land. I'm just saying it's not always our place to punish people. For example recently somewhen has been threatening me, and old friend of mine, well i could go meet up with him, knock him out and have done with it, but instead i'll let God deal with his heart. Anyways im jibbin now. --D-SIPL ------------------ |
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ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
well, that's a little different. the main thing is the motive, I mean, if you just hate someone, you kill them in your heart. taking things into our own hands can get very messy. hence, government is used to deal with justice and stuff. ------------------ |
bennythebear Member Posts: 1225 From: kentucky,usa Registered: 12-13-2003 |
i'll pray pray for the girl. people rape people because of the wicked desires to cause others pain. as far as punishment for crimes goes, vengeance is the LORD's, HE will repay. sin is sin, i hope the man get's right with GOD, but if HE don't his punishment will be the same as our's would be if it weren't for the grace of GOD, and us accepting it. i don't understand how a CHRISTian could hate anyone enough to wish them to die, of course a CHRISTian can't be a CHRISTian with hate in their heart. i mean looking at the things i've done, and continue to fall on, i know it's by GOD's grace and mercy alone that i'm gonna make it in. when it talks about GOD choosing the weak things to confound the strong/wise, i'm one of the weakest, and i was called to preach the gospel. i beleive one reason is simply this, people who know me, will no there's no way i could be doing it, they'll have to glorify GOD, and i will, no room for my flesh to get lifted up. sorry i got off the subject. later y'all. |
