D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
Hey People. I just finished a game programming competition at university. We had 1 week to write a game based on a theme that was randomly pulled out of a hat (standard format for this type of comp). It was real good fun, it was hard and we all learnt loads. So I was wandering whether you people would be interested in a CCN game programming competition? Obviously I would have to run it by Krylar, Mack and Klumsy but if there is enough interest I don't see there being a problem. Like I said it is great fun and always interesting to see other peoples creativity ------------------ |
buddboy Member Posts: 2220 From: New Albany, Indiana, U.S. Registered: 10-08-2004 |
definitely... we've had them before, like we had one around christmas time 2004 i think... i liked it. ------------------ RADIOACTIVE IE AHEAD! int name() ----------------------- |
TwoBrothersSoftware Member Posts: 141 From: Janesville, Wi USA` Registered: 08-05-2006 |
I've participated in a Lundrum dare once- finished my project but scored at about the bottom third. Still it was a good experience. |
HanClinto Administrator Posts: 1828 From: Indiana Registered: 10-11-2004 |
I think this would be a lot of fun.  Short-notice game subject announcement, some basic rules, and we'll go to town.I'm game. --clint |
crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
Sounds cool. I'm in too. ------------------ |
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D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
Thats encouraging any others? ------------------ |
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kurtp2003 Member Posts: 48 From: minnesota, US Registered: 01-20-2006 |
Sure I'll submit a game... I'm not much of a programmer though. [This message has been edited by kurtp2003 (edited August 20, 2006).] |
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Lava Member Posts: 1905 From: Registered: 01-26-2005 |
Will it be language specific? Like only C++ or Java games? If not and I like the theme, I am in. ------------------ [This message has been edited by lava (edited August 20, 2006).] |
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D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
Any language you like from Assembly through to Game Maker. The only limit is your creativity and possibly copyright laws  We will pick a theme and then a start date and time. What sort of time-scale would you be happy with as a starter? I was thinking 1 week would be both challenging and plausible. Anymore people in? ------------------ |
Mack Administrator Posts: 2779 From: Registered: 01-20-2001 |
Sounds like a good idea to me |
Max Member Posts: 523 From: IA Registered: 09-19-2004 |
Sounds great, wish I knew how to code. ------------------ Blind belief is dangerous. - Kenyan Proverb Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. - Pablo Picasso |
luke Member Posts: 311 From: I use your computer as my second Linux box Registered: 10-30-2005 |
Great idea, but speaking of krylar, where is he? Haven't seen him on these board in ages ------------------ |
steveth45 Member Posts: 536 From: Eugene, OR, USA Registered: 08-10-2005 |
Sign me up! ------------------ |
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buddboy Member Posts: 2220 From: New Albany, Indiana, U.S. Registered: 10-08-2004 |
he was here a couple months ago when cpu mentioned him in a topic... ------------------ RADIOACTIVE IE AHEAD! int name() ----------------------- |
CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
I'll take a hack at it. ------------------ |
dartsman Member Posts: 484 From: Queensland, Australia Registered: 03-16-2006 |
hmm... I like the idea... how would the end product be judged though? ------------------ |
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HanClinto Administrator Posts: 1828 From: Indiana Registered: 10-11-2004 |
quote: That's up to the contest coordinator, but I'm going to guess there will be a set number of categories (such as best art, most original, and then the overall choice), and everyone votes for their favorite (if they entered the competition, they can't vote for their own). Then it's a simple tally. That's what I would guess would happen, but we need to be careful to have set deadlines for voting (so that it happens), and an organized way of collecting votes. I'm looking forward to this -- I think a short-term short-notice programming competition could be a lot of fun. --clint |
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dartsman Member Posts: 484 From: Queensland, Australia Registered: 03-16-2006 |
clint, sounds like a plan... ------------------ |
Tonnyx Member Posts: 140 From: Indiana, USA Registered: 08-02-2005 |
I'll give it a try ... I'll probably write it in php since that's the only language I am remotely comfortable in. ------------------ |
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HanClinto Administrator Posts: 1828 From: Indiana Registered: 10-11-2004 |
Oh right -- D asked for votes as far as timescale goes. I think a week is plausible and fun as well -- that gets my vote. --clint |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
Will there be a list of rules posted soon? EDIT: A week sounds ok. ------------------ [This message has been edited by CPUFreak91 (edited August 21, 2006).] |
Jari Member Posts: 1471 From: Helsinki, Finland Registered: 03-11-2005 |
I could make some really simple game - like last time. I just hope every one gets their game done in time... So don't take too large bite! ------------------ [VoHW] (Help needed) [Blog] - Truedisciple (mp3) |
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crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
Week sounds good to me. ------------------ |
Ereon Member Posts: 1018 From: Ohio, United States Registered: 04-12-2005 |
Blast, if my laptop hadn't gone down I could have entered Gladiator.  Sorry, guess I'm out of this one guys.------------------ Of course God knew what would happen if they used their freedom the wrong way: apparently He thought it worth the risk. Friendship is born at that moment when one person says to another: What! You too? I thought I was the only one. |
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crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
You're telling everyone you can't whip up a small game in a week? Psh, I know you better than that. :-p ------------------ |
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steveth45 Member Posts: 536 From: Eugene, OR, USA Registered: 08-10-2005 |
I'm excited about this. I've always wanted to do one of these game-in-a-week competitions. This could generate some great ideas and concepts for the next CCN project. I think everyone here is capable of coming up with a game, however simple. It just forces the coders to deal with finding/creating art assets, the designers and artists have to deal with some coding/scripting. The tools are out there to make this as painless as possible. ------------------ |
jestermax Member Posts: 1064 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: 06-21-2006 |
That's such an awesome idea! Kudos and crackers to the "kracka" who thought of that . |
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luke Member Posts: 311 From: I use your computer as my second Linux box Registered: 10-30-2005 |
I know, lets do this every Wednesday! (Hopes Jayenkay doesn't see this) ------------------ |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
quote: I (and probably a lot of people here) don't have enough time to do a game every week. ------------------ |
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D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
Wow I really didn't think it would be this popular To answer a few questions. There will be a few winning categories like best Art, most original and the best overall game. I have emailed a few developers of game development tools regarding sponsoring some prizes, i will update you on that. It would be good if either Mack or Krylar could sort out some space to host the competition on CCN, just so we can put up the details, news and winners etc. Is this possible? As for judging the game, I think it would be best if we all voted for the game we think is best in the relative categories. I'm currently sorting out possible themes and sponsors so it maybe another few weeks until it is underway (and i expect HanClinto will want to take part when he gets back? ------------------ |
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D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
Just had an email from Mete who created Milkshape 3D, he will donating a full licensed copy of Milkshape. This will either go to the winner of the Art category or if we dont secure enough sponsors then it will go to the overall winner. What do you guys think? Great news all the same ------------------ |
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dartsman Member Posts: 484 From: Queensland, Australia Registered: 03-16-2006 |
sounds good, although, what if there was more then 1 person in the team? Would you be able to ask Mete if he could give say 5 copys, or up to 5 copies? And then that should cover a smallish team, and if the winner has say 2 people in the team, then the other copies could roll over into other areas, or even to the 2nd place/3rd place winners?? I personally will most likely go it alone... Though if I had someone help me with the graphics I would want to be able to share the prize with them. ------------------ |
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Mack Administrator Posts: 2779 From: Registered: 01-20-2001 |
quote: Krylar would have to set that up, as I don't have access to the FTP. I'd like to have the rules, time, etc. layed out first (in this thread) before opened it up however. [This message has been edited by Mack (edited August 21, 2006).] |
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D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
quote: I'll see what I can do. It was such a nice offer, that i really didn't want to push it. I figured that most people would go it alone anyway. Mack i'll finalise the details this week and email them to you. Thanks ------------------ |
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crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
D-SIPL, have you come up with any ideas for a theme yet? ------------------ |
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TwoBrothersSoftware Member Posts: 141 From: Janesville, Wi USA` Registered: 08-05-2006 |
Individual or teams - how large or teams Should we vote on themes I think this is great but some ground rules do need to get set up |
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D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
The rules are being written now as we speak. The themes or ideas of themes will be posted tonight. Any suggestions are welcome also. ------------------ |
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HanClinto Administrator Posts: 1828 From: Indiana Registered: 10-11-2004 |
I think I'll still participate, even while we're in Africa. I also don't think I have time to do something like this every week, but I'm certainly game for the first one. I'm hesitant to post themes about it much before the competition, because that gives people more time to think about what they're going to do, and potentially start their project early. I like the idea of posting the theme and starting the one-week timer from there. If you have theme ideas, I would suggest e-mailing them to D-Sipl directly rather than posting them here for everyone to see. D-Sipl -- do you think that the forums here are good enough? I would guess that the forum area here would be flexible enough for the whole competition (at least for this first one). I remember that we were able to do the whole smiley battle competitions in the plain forums, and we didn't even have people with moderator access help with that. So can we start this soon? I'm up for it starting sometime this week (even as soon as tomorrow or the day after) -- I'm itching to get this going. So many ideas are rolling around in my head, but without a theme to direct them, I'm not sure which ones to expand on. Cheers! --clint |
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Jari Member Posts: 1471 From: Helsinki, Finland Registered: 03-11-2005 |
Sounds promising, let's pray that the Lord blesses this competition. I hope we see Christian themed or message containing games. ------------------ [VoHW] (Help needed) [Blog] - Truedisciple (mp3) |
penny Member Posts: 101 From: Registered: 08-15-2006 |
This sounds very interesting! Can you all do that? Program a video game in a week? That just sounds amazing to me. ------------------ |
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buddboy Member Posts: 2220 From: New Albany, Indiana, U.S. Registered: 10-08-2004 |
actually its been done many times. they have competitions where you have to do them in a week. but i do wish it could be longer so i could have a chance of participating. because i can't get on during the week and during the weekend i think we'll be gone. ------------------ [This message has been edited by buddboy (edited August 22, 2006).] |
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D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
Quick update on prizes for the winners, the guys over at The Game Creators are offering DBPro, Dark Physics, Dark AI and FPS Creator! So we have loads of great prizes for you  With regards to judges, i am suggesting me, mack, krylar, klumsy and tim (graceworks). If we all voted it would mean everyone would have to play all the entries, if some of the entries are Linux only games for example this could cause a problem. Obviously if any of the suggested judges do not want to do it, or want to enter the competition themselves, let me know. ------------------ |
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Ereon Member Posts: 1018 From: Ohio, United States Registered: 04-12-2005 |
You people are dead cruel......exactly the perfect prizes and I have nothing to enter.... Ah well ------------------ Of course God knew what would happen if they used their freedom the wrong way: apparently He thought it worth the risk. Friendship is born at that moment when one person says to another: What! You too? I thought I was the only one. |
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D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
quote: the competition hasn't started yet ------------------ |
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crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
Ereon, neither does anyone else. It would have been slightly dishonest for you to enter gladiator when everyone else only has a week to do this. :-p @D-SIPL- those are some great prizes! With so much good software riding on the win, do you think the timeline should be extended a little bit so people can really give it everything they've got? (And also give more people a chance to participate) ------------------ [This message has been edited by crazyishone (edited August 22, 2006).] |
firemaker103 Member Posts: 643 From: Registered: 07-13-2005 |
Hey, I'll host files. Just send it to stjanovitz@gmail.com. ------------------ |
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Jari Member Posts: 1471 From: Helsinki, Finland Registered: 03-11-2005 |
So do we have any estimation when will this start? ------------------ [VoHW] (Help needed) [Blog] - Truedisciple (mp3) |
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HanClinto Administrator Posts: 1828 From: Indiana Registered: 10-11-2004 |
*Wow*. That's great to hear about those prizes, D-Sipl! I'm really looking forward to this. I'm super-impressed you got sponsors -- that's great! Can't wait for it to start. --clint |
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Lava Member Posts: 1905 From: Registered: 01-26-2005 |
What will be the areas you are looking in each of the games? Like say a game was made in gamemaker and had the best graphics, but another game was made with crummy graphics but was made in C++. Would the C++ one win because it was harder to make? ------------------ |
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HanClinto Administrator Posts: 1828 From: Indiana Registered: 10-11-2004 |
I'm going to guess that the judges will look at the final result, no matter how it was achieved. Just beware that by using some pre-packaged game-makers, it's pretty hard to hide the fact that you used a lot of canned stuff. I don't see any reason why people shouldn't use "Game Maker" type of engines for this project -- I might even use one myself. Just beware that I think I've read someone on here (was it ArchAngel?) say something like "I can smell an RPGMaker game from a mile away". That said, he also wrote that RPGMaker games can be quite fun, and that sometimes there is a surprising amount of originality in those games. Each tool has its ups and downs -- one just has to learn how to work with it well to achieve the best results in an acceptable timeframe. --clint |
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penny Member Posts: 101 From: Registered: 08-15-2006 |
If you would like a non-technical evaluation of the games, I would be happy to judge. I have both linux(ubuntu) and win xp. Just an offer. ------------------ |
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steveth45 Member Posts: 536 From: Eugene, OR, USA Registered: 08-10-2005 |
Well, I think that the judging will be done by everybody here. Perhaps we could limit the judging to those who submit a game. As far as difficulty of creation, I don't think it will play much into scoring so much as how fun the game is. With C++ you'll have more immediate control over fine-tuning things moreso than Game Maker. Sometimes the fine-tuning makes all the difference between an alright game and a super fun game. I've played numerous versions of the game Tetris and the fun is all in the fine tuning of controls and block movement. There is a surprising amount of subtlety to that game. Tetris clones that are just slapped together, are often not very fun to play. Game Maker could be helpful for prototyping an idea, then you could take the assets and write the game using C++ and SDL. On a side note. Torque Game Builder (similar to Game Maker but cross-platform, hardware accelerated, network ready, etc) has a free 30 day trial demo. As long as you aren't selling the game, you could use that. Plus, if you wanted to sell it, all you'd have to do is get the $100 indie license. I don't know if the demo is feature limited, though. I haven't tried it out, yet. Do we have a set date for this thing? Also, I believe the idea of a game in a week competition is that you create a game from scratch in one week using existing tools and libraries that everyone else has access to. Submitting something you made or started working on three months ago doesn't count. ------------------ |
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D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
Hey, Right to answer a few questions. I think it would be best to have a selection of Judges for the first contest. It would be easier for a few of us to be responsible in installing/running/playing all of the games, than expect you lot to. This will insure that they are judged fairly. With regards to the areas, they will be split into Art, Originality, Overall and I would like to do a prize for best effort made (this could be someone who is new to programming, possibly some of the younger lessed seasoned programmers). What do you guys think? I want it to be fair and everyone to have a level playing field. As for when the competition starts that will depend on how quickly the web side of things can get up and running. I have the rules all laid out and they are getting checked over by Mack. We have the prizes and a theme (which will be announced at a later date). I'm hoping that the competition will start next weekend, this will depend how quickly I can get everything approved with the powers above ------------------ |
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luke Member Posts: 311 From: I use your computer as my second Linux box Registered: 10-30-2005 |
What do you guys think of having 2 weeks to 1 month for this, instead of 1 week; since some people (including me) are using C++ and working with DX. Im still working on my code base right now, which is currently able to load a mesh, and display it with texture and lighting; transform a mesh in multiple ways; and in about a weeks work I might have a good library to start my engine, which will probably take another week... ------------------ |
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D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
I would be happy to stretch to a month, but i want to avoid people being motivated for the first few weeks then losing interest, or thinking they have a month and not to worry, finally scrambling at the last minute to get something together. I'm happy for further suggestions. A week for me was enough, but a month would mean better quality games and this competitions aim is to boost christian games and christian developers. Suggestions, comments? ------------------ |
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buddboy Member Posts: 2220 From: New Albany, Indiana, U.S. Registered: 10-08-2004 |
a week is too short for somebody like me who can only get on during weekends. i would be very glad to get a month. ------------------ |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
quote: Sounds like the 1 month game idea again. A month is also fine with me. I may actually be able to submit a game Speaking of questions: ------------------ [This message has been edited by CPUFreak91 (edited August 24, 2006).] |
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jestermax Member Posts: 1064 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: 06-21-2006 |
i wasn't sure before if i even wanted to enter (and i'm still not sure) but i have some time this weekend so i might try to put a few ideas together. this COULD be an opportunity to test out the Jester GE too. anyways, i'm more for a week, not a month. a month is stretched out too far |
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steveth45 Member Posts: 536 From: Eugene, OR, USA Registered: 08-10-2005 |
Well, however long the competition is, time is always going to be the limiting factor. So, if you're working on a C++ game engine from scratch, it's not the ideal platform for a game in a week. When I was first learning about game programming, I spent several months trying to build my own OpenGL game engine. I learned a lot, but then I found that engines like Irrlicht encompassed all the features I needed and more without having bloated code like Ogre or Torque or the Quake engines. If you have to use tools you are not used to to get the game done, then it will be a learning experience. I vote for a week, and everyone knows that the games will be small and simple, but that's just part of the deal. I honestly could put aside a decent part of a week to make a game, but I certainly can't do a month. Most of the work for the games will probably be done in the last week anyways. It's the deadline that makes you do more. ------------------ |
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crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
I agree, but out of respect for the sponsors we should make sure there is ample time for somebody to turn out a quality game. How do you think the sponsors would feel if a week from now, the person who wins made a mediocre pac man clone, and all those who lost couldn't come up with something better? Heheh.. "Have I been scammed? Wha....huh? " ------------------ |
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kurtp2003 Member Posts: 48 From: minnesota, US Registered: 01-20-2006 |
I'm all in, though, once school starts, I won't be able to get much done Edit: Are we allowed to port old game engines if we made them originally? [This message has been edited by kurtp2003 (edited August 24, 2006).] |
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steveth45 Member Posts: 536 From: Eugene, OR, USA Registered: 08-10-2005 |
Crazy, You're right. Sometimes I get psyched up for a challenge. Yeah, I think a longer period of time than a week would improve the overall quality of the games we make. We could spend some time in the forums going over some basic tools. ------------------ |
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Lava Member Posts: 1905 From: Registered: 01-26-2005 |
quote: Yeah, when I started the model competition, everyone told me the due date wasn't long enough, but then after the due date everyone had forget about it because it was too long. ------------------ |
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HanClinto Administrator Posts: 1828 From: Indiana Registered: 10-11-2004 |
A month is a *really* long time. I agree -- the problem with the "one month game" thing was not that there wasn't enough time, but that it ran out of steam. I fear that anything longer than 2 weeks runs the risk of losing a lot of interest. Personally I really like marathon coding sessions -- I really enjoy staying up late and just hammering out a project in a day or two. If one can't finish a game in a month, I'm not sure another month would help all that much more. So often the issue is organization of time/effort, not the actual difficulty in completing the project. I would still be really happy with a week-long competition, but two weeks sounds fine to me. I'm a little leery of 3 weeks or a month... but hey -- I'll go along with whatever other people want. When you start raising the amount of time available for the project, it gets a little scary because the expectation to output something huge and awesome and cool comes into play. When it's a week-long competition, everyone knows it's thrown together and it's expected. On another topic, I still like the idea of being able to vote for our favorite games even if we're not judges -- but I think D-Sipl is right -- it would be hard to try and count on everybody to do that. The only way I would imagine that we could vote is if it was the normal panel of judges who each had one vote, and then the community at large had another scoring vote that was decided democratically. Either that, or there would just be a semi-official "people's choice" award that wouldn't necessarily have any more reward than props from one's own peers. However, if we don't wind up having a "people's choice", then I think that's perfectly fine. I really like the panel-of-judges format that's used for the monthly indie games roundup over at Game Tunnel. Regarding the whole issue of using previous work -- programmers often build up a library of code that they bring from project to project, and it helps them get things done faster and better. There's a difference between using a rendering engine you wrote last year and submitting a game that you've worked on for months. One is a means to and end, the other is an end in and of itself. But then again, I'm not writing the rules. I honestly don't know how I would feel about using a game engine I've written (like Mite) for this competition. On one hand, I think it's fine and I would really like to. On the other hand, I'm not sure if it's "fair" enough. D-Sipl -- when you said that it would likely start next weekend -- is that like *this* next weekend (Saturday the 26th) or *next* next weekend (Saturday the 2nd)? Cheers! --clint |
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jestermax Member Posts: 1064 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: 06-21-2006 |
if it's just a game engine that you wrote, whats the difference between using that and a premade one like torque, GTGE, etc or even GameMaker? on the other hand, i think that games that have already been started should not be used or even ported over. Even if it's just porting, you still know EXACTLY how it's going to end up and its just a translation. Anyways, my 3 cents (you get that extra one cent with me) |
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Mack Administrator Posts: 2779 From: Registered: 01-20-2001 |
Krylar and I are working out setting up the page/space on the website as we speak. I think 2 weeks is good. I think using a pre-existing engine is fine, but more points should be awared to those who built everything from scratch in 2 weeks. The theme D-SIPL picked is good as well, you guys will have fun with it. I'm also going to give away free copies of Eternal War: Shadows of Light to each winner of each catagory.
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kurtp2003 Member Posts: 48 From: minnesota, US Registered: 01-20-2006 |
Wait, what theme? Am I missing something here? |
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jestermax Member Posts: 1064 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: 06-21-2006 |
if we knew the theme then we'd probably already be coding, lol. |
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kurtp2003 Member Posts: 48 From: minnesota, US Registered: 01-20-2006 |
I know I would |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
quote:
quote: Oops My bad. I ment to say if it was legal finding an artist on CCN who wouldn't like to code to help those who don't want to do graphics. But if finding graphics somewhere else is ok, that's also fine with me.
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Jari Member Posts: 1471 From: Helsinki, Finland Registered: 03-11-2005 |
quote: I hope the game I'm planing to do fits in the theme or else I don't know what to make. :/ ------------------ [VoHW] (Help needed) [Blog] - Truedisciple (mp3) [This message has been edited by jari (edited August 25, 2006).] |
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luke Member Posts: 311 From: I use your computer as my second Linux box Registered: 10-30-2005 |
Heres my game idea, pacman but instead of pacman your a monster hunting pac down lol.. but seriously, would it be ok if my game had only programmer 'art' (think kindergartener scratch) ------------------ |
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steveth45 Member Posts: 536 From: Eugene, OR, USA Registered: 08-10-2005 |
As far as your personal code base, who can stop you? But, that creates a greater divide between those who have more experience and those who don't. I saw the rules of one competition that said, go ahead and use your own engine or code base so long as you make the code available at the beginning of the competition for anyone else to use. That seems fair to me, but I'm not in charge of rules. ------------------ |
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kurtp2003 Member Posts: 48 From: minnesota, US Registered: 01-20-2006 |
I agree with that, however, I guarantee that noone will want to use my code... I probably won't either, honestly. None of my work has been very impressive. |
Lazarus Member Posts: 1668 From: USA Registered: 06-06-2006 |
quote: Uh-oh, I can't see Chuck Norris anywhere. Cool idea! And you know, you can always steal art from other games(whether that's allowed or not I don't know). There are dozens of good-looking pacman games(free-commercial) out there, just take one, slip the graphics, put 'em in your game and... where'd these cops come from? Lazarus |
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Ereon Member Posts: 1018 From: Ohio, United States Registered: 04-12-2005 |
So when is the flat out deadline for this? ------------------ Of course God knew what would happen if they used their freedom the wrong way: apparently He thought it worth the risk. Friendship is born at that moment when one person says to another: What! You too? I thought I was the only one. |
GUMP Member Posts: 1335 From: Melbourne, FL USA Registered: 11-09-2002 |
Where to upload your entry: FTP: 66.118.156.30 Please create a new dir with your name. |
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Ereon Member Posts: 1018 From: Ohio, United States Registered: 04-12-2005 |
One question, can we use an engine partially in progress? My Gladiator engine is partially done, it has no gameplay to speak of or anything, but part of the work has already been done, would I be allowed to finish it up and enter it? ------------------ Of course God knew what would happen if they used their freedom the wrong way: apparently He thought it worth the risk. Friendship is born at that moment when one person says to another: What! You too? I thought I was the only one. |
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HanClinto Administrator Posts: 1828 From: Indiana Registered: 10-11-2004 |
Should we use our real name or our CCN pseudonym? I just know there are a couple of people named "Luke" and "Matt" on here -- so I wouldn't want things to get too confusing. --clint |
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GUMP Member Posts: 1335 From: Melbourne, FL USA Registered: 11-09-2002 |
For the Dir name I don't think it matters. But put a text file called "Entry.txt" with your project. This should include your full real name and contact/shipping info. |
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crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
But we still havn't got a theme to work with yet, right? Just want to make sure I didn't miss that somewhere. I know you guys have decided on one, but if I missed the announcement that would kinda suck. ------------------ |
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Mack Administrator Posts: 2779 From: Registered: 01-20-2001 |
quote: I think CCN name would be good, since we mostly know people by that. Thanks to www.gameace.org for opening thier FTP to CCN for this contest. I'm going to open a fresh thread covering the date, theme and rules in the next few days. |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
quote: Sounds good! EDIT: What licences are we allowed to release the games under?
[This message has been edited by CPUFreak91 (edited August 28, 2006).] |
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buddboy Member Posts: 2220 From: New Albany, Indiana, U.S. Registered: 10-08-2004 |
why would it matter? ------------------ |
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Mack Administrator Posts: 2779 From: Registered: 01-20-2001 |
quote: I think freeware sounds good |
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Ereon Member Posts: 1018 From: Ohio, United States Registered: 04-12-2005 |
Gack, another nail in Gladiator's coffin, I was going to sell it as shareware . Oh well, I feel more like making a completely new game anyway. ------------------ Of course God knew what would happen if they used their freedom the wrong way: apparently He thought it worth the risk. Friendship is born at that moment when one person says to another: What! You too? I thought I was the only one. |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
quote: Then there's nothing wrong with Open Source, I presume?
quote: These days, liscencing (or the lack of) always matters. I can't go stealing GPL code if I'm not releasing the source under the GPL or LGPL... ------------------ |
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Lazarus Member Posts: 1668 From: USA Registered: 06-06-2006 |
quote: theme? Doh! Why not just have it be "whatever game you can come up with". |
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Ereon Member Posts: 1018 From: Ohio, United States Registered: 04-12-2005 |
It's part of the fun Lazarus, taking something completely random and exercising your creativity and then applying it. The challenge is part of the fun . ------------------ Of course God knew what would happen if they used their freedom the wrong way: apparently He thought it worth the risk. Friendship is born at that moment when one person says to another: What! You too? I thought I was the only one. |
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graceworks Member Posts: 455 From: Corvallis, Oregon, USA Registered: 03-03-2001 |
Richard - sorry for not responding to your email, we are out of town celebrating our anniversary. I love competitions but don't have time to compete (plus I am quite rusty at what little I know - a simple TADS game would be a stretch right now). I can possibly judge depending on the time requirements - although I don't have a Linux box running yet (nor Mac). Also, GraceWorks Interactive - Christian Games NOW will donate some games as prizes. If we get enough prizes, I suggest that every person that makes a sincere effort gets one. We can donate Interactive Parables, Catechumen and Ominous Horizons (and possibly Scripture Solitaire). GodSpeed to all those entering. God bless, ------------------ |
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D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
Hey People. I've been busy this weekend with various bits and pieces. We have secured another sponsor, so there will be a copy of Brain Editor Professional up for grabs as well! The rules are complete. It covers everything from delivery format to coding tools to use of libraries etc etc. The games will be freeware and code sharing is optional (but encouraged). The competition will run for 2 weeks. The provisional start date being Saturday 2nd September depending on whether the web space is sorted by then. Mack any news on this? The rules and will be uploaded hopefully before the competition begins and then the theme will be added on the 2nd September. The finish date being the 16th September. We will not accept any games uploaded after this time. Tim if you could judge that would be great. I'll email you again before the competition begins. Hope this answers a few questions! ------------------ |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
Nicely planned. This answers all my questions. Thanks!
quote: Ah well, freeware is a bit of a disapointment. ------------------ |
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D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
I would love it to be open source as this will benefit the community as whole. I don't want to put people off who may not want to share their source. It's not about forcing people to open up their code, those that are willing to will do it, those that are not, won't. Everyones happy I would suggest that you all start pulling in your resources, coding tools, coke, coffee and whatever else you need... not long to go now ------------------ |
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Ereon Member Posts: 1018 From: Ohio, United States Registered: 04-12-2005 |
Coffee coffee coffee cofee, bounce bounce bounce bounce, hyper hyper hyper hyper CRASH! Oy......I am SO going to regret this . ------------------ Of course God knew what would happen if they used their freedom the wrong way: apparently He thought it worth the risk. Friendship is born at that moment when one person says to another: What! You too? I thought I was the only one. |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
quote: So for those who want to open source their stuff they can. And those who don't want to don't need to. Ok I see now.
quote: Hehehe. I'm doing research on sprites right now. ------------------ |
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Mack Administrator Posts: 2779 From: Registered: 01-20-2001 |
quote: I sent you both an email and PM on this and other stuff related yesterday. |
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HanClinto Administrator Posts: 1828 From: Indiana Registered: 10-11-2004 |
quote: For you or anyone else doing the same thing, don't forget about Ari Feldman's SpriteLib GPL (free graphics for games), as well as his free-for-download book Designing Arcade Computer Game Graphics -- it's no longer in print, but it's still got lots of great timeless content about creating sprites, and he *very* generously offers it as a free download from his site. I'm getting very excited about this contest. The prizes are just fantastic! I hope we get a lot of participation. Cheers! --clint |
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Lazarus Member Posts: 1668 From: USA Registered: 06-06-2006 |
Also http://www.gamemaker.nl/resource.html has a bunch of graphics and sounds available for free. Lazarus |
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steveth45 Member Posts: 536 From: Eugene, OR, USA Registered: 08-10-2005 |
quote: Could we please have this information at least a day in advance, so we can at least get our tool chain set up? The target system, processor speed, RAM, minimum video card and OS are important to know in advance, too. ------------------ |
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D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
quote: I pm'ed you with the added info. If there are any problems then let me know ------------------ |
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Ereon Member Posts: 1018 From: Ohio, United States Registered: 04-12-2005 |
So we get the theme and stuff tommorrow right? ------------------ Of course God knew what would happen if they used their freedom the wrong way: apparently He thought it worth the risk. Friendship is born at that moment when one person says to another: What! You too? I thought I was the only one. |
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HanClinto Administrator Posts: 1828 From: Indiana Registered: 10-11-2004 |
I think he was saying we'll get the theme when the contest actually starts (Saturday) -- but that we may get the rules a day or two earlier (so he might post the rules tomorrow). --clint |
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D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
Another last minute sponsor! GL Basic are offering 2 full copies of their game programming language software. I think the head developer has turned out to be a christian himself! hehe... With this huge bounty of prizes... D-SIPL == Santa Clause ------------------ |
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Mack Administrator Posts: 2779 From: Registered: 01-20-2001 |
http://www.christiancoders.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/postdisplay.cgi?forum=Forum4&topic=000400 |
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