IT'S BACK!

After a successful contest in 2006 Christian Coders Network is happy to bring back the CCN SPEEDGAME CONTEST!

CHECK OUT THE NEW SITE DEDICATED TO THE CONTEST:

http://www.gameace.org/~ChristianCoders/

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But this reminds me I didn't quite learn all I had wanted to learn prior to this year's contest. :-(

Gotta get thinking now...

Thanks for doing this again!

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So the theme is two male cows?

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Oh wait... so busy with work... /sigh

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I'd be interested in helping with maybe some design on other's games. Not sure what to do about prizes.
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Thought travels much faster than sound, it is better to think something twice, and say it once, than to think something once, and have to say it twice.
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I see that the theme is posted, is that a joke or is that the theme. So the theme is two male cows?

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The theme is the Parables of Jesus, either it be a game based on the Parables itself or a game based on the point Jesus was making with the Parable.

Here's a listing of some of them, 40 different concepts:

http://www.bcbsr.com/survey/jpbl.html

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Thought travels much faster than sound, it is better to think something twice, and say it once, than to think something once, and have to say it twice.
"Frogs and Fauns! The tournament!" - Professor Winneynoodle/HanClinto

I reserve the full right to change my views/theories at any time.

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Originally posted by Mene-Mene:
Because if I could get TGE or TGEA or whatever in Downloadable form instead of through the mail, then it would be a lot more convienient for me.

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Originally posted by Mene-Mene:
If I at all can I will. I don't have many tools, and BM and C++ are the only languages I could do it in, and C++ is a bit out of my league. I also have the ability for GM, but am not using it, as I have little skill.

I'd be interested in helping with maybe some design on other's games. Not sure what to do about prizes.

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If I join (more than likely), I am most definitely using Blitz.

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Originally posted by jestermax:
now i'm conflicted.... as to which language i want to use

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My Programming and Hacker/Geek related Blog

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Originally posted by Lazarus:
I am so entering this year.

Oh wait... so busy with work... /sigh

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"Oh, bother," said the Borg. "We've assimilated Pooh."

"Socialism works great... if there are no people involved." -- Pastor David Ginter, Union Church of Guatemala.

My Programming and Hacker/Geek related Blog

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Originally posted by CPUFreak91:
The competition lasts a full 3 weeks! Surely you can't find time for a quick 1-2 week game spread out over 21 days?

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I don't know how much time I'll have to enter, but I'm hoping to bang out a small casual game in a few days -- I love these kinds of coding exercises (despite the fact that I'll probably be exempt from competing for actual prizes).

--clint

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After the contest is done I'm going to be posting this all over major gaming news websites. So everyone take your time to do your best and most importantly have fun!

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Thought travels much faster than sound, it is better to think something twice, and say it once, than to think something once, and have to say it twice.
"Frogs and Fauns! The tournament!" - Professor Winneynoodle/HanClinto

I reserve the full right to change my views/theories at any time.

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Originally posted by Mene-Mene:
1. is it possible for a team?
2. If so, then how would prizes work?

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Right now we have around 15 different prizes and 5 categories. So we're looking at 3 prizes per category. Dividing them up will be up to the people that team together.

I submitted the contest news to GameDEV.net and Gamasutra as well. Hopefully well see some more Christian devs interested in doing something.

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I'm a moderate programmer who programs every so often, but with encouragement will pick up the pace, I can create simple models, and am looking a little bit into 3d Programming. I have an Idea or two for the contest as well.

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MM out-
Thought travels much faster than sound, it is better to think something twice, and say it once, than to think something once, and have to say it twice.
"Frogs and Fauns! The tournament!" - Professor Winneynoodle/HanClinto

I reserve the full right to change my views/theories at any time.

anyhow, I think that no teams would be simpler, but I'm just a lowly contestant. what do you guys think?
oh, and what would the team limit be?
2 people?

don't mean to be whiny. just trying to clarify and stuff.

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So, is there any bonus points(or something for people who go it alone?

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So, is there any bonus points(or something for people who go it alone?
A 2 person team can have twice the specialization along with twice the man hours than a single person.

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So from a combination of difficulty in management, offset by the prizes needing to be split amongst team members, I generally am of the opinion that the whole "teams" thing can sortof balance itself out. I respect anyone who can organize, motivate, and be productive with a team of volunteers in a short-term.

Plus, it can help to foster relationships amongst team members (or hurt them, as the case may be) -- and fellowship is one of the big reasons why we do the contest here.

Still, I'll admit that it's not a closed-and-shut case, and I'm still up for modifying the rules to account for teams. Pyweek spreads the judging out in individual/team rankings for good reason -- though one of their big differences is that they don't have such super-cool prizes to divvy amongst team members.

--clint

I seem to recall that judging would have gone better with a deadline and allowing judges to confer with eachother so everyone is clear on the rules and we don't have teams sharing categories due to ties.

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Originally posted by cohort X:
How is the judging going to be done this round?

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The judges have one week to call votes on all the submissions. Votes can't be late; if not all the votes are in then the final judging will be based on all the votes submitted (either it be one judges votes or all of them). No ties. No categories with no winners.

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Uh, as far as I know.

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however, I would assume if it was things such as a .X animation system or a larger less trivial code block you'd most likely need to site where you got it from. More so for the game code (AI, gameplay, game systems, etc. code) I would assume.

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Hey, I was wondering if it was ok to use books, and forums such as this while making our games

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Yes, if you get a large amount of help however I'd recommend mentioning them. If it's something small then I wouldn't worry about it.

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When you say "open source" is it ok if the libraries we use are not open source? I don't mind sharing the code I write, but I'm looking at some libraries that are free, but closed source. Is that ok?

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You only have to share the code that you've written for this contest. If you want to use a closed source library then do so, just make sure to include it with the game and make mention of it.

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http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=457346

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Originally posted by Mack:
Thanks to GameDev.net for putting our contest as a news item!

http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=457346

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However, the link to the contest page from their announcement is malformed -- at least to my browser.

--clint

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Originally posted by Mack:
The judges have one week to call votes on all the submissions. Votes can't be late; if not all the votes are in then the final judging will be based on all the votes submitted (either it be one judges votes or all of them). No ties. No categories with no winners.

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That's good, I think my biggest frustration with the last comp was the length of time waiting. I think I am going to compete. I will be using visual basic .net 2005, and my assorted arsenal of ancialary programs to create sound and graphics.

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while I would hope that we could use the honor system, it would have been a good idea not to post the theme to help avoid temptation.

During the first contest steveth45 and I didn't even have our idea until 5 days in

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What prevents someone from starting now and cheating for extra time.

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I think I am going to compete.

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I'm happy to hear it!

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During the first contest steveth45 and I didn't even have our idea until 5 days in

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This is actually why I posted the theme. So people could get together, brain storm, come up with a concept and then do actual development work on it during the 2 week period.

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So, can I start like drawing stuff on paper and whatnot... and just not code until the start...

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Yep. Everyone can feel free to start on the design doc for the game they're making.

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and are we supposed to wait to start on our artwork, and music... or can we do that now?

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Have to wait for the contest to start for that, can't do it now.

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I also have art from old projects, and was wondering if that was ok to use as well...

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You can use art from previous projects, from GPL art sites or make it yourself. The more code, artwork, sound, etc. that's made during the contest the more points you'll be awarded however.

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Originally posted by Thirddaysaved:
O ok, Thanks Mack... so I can use textures from the Gimp, and stuff like that... Blender, Deled3D? I think those are GPL...Ya... I don't like all the copyright stuff... What if we accidently use something thats not GPL?

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You can use stuff that ain't GPLed.

(Man, all this stuff is making me despise "the viral license" even more...)

I should take off a couple weeks from work for this, but I'd probably get fired instead.

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What if we accidently use something thats not GPL?

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Try and check all your sources before using a resource. You can use a non-GPL resource but you need the written permission of the author first and mention it in your games readme. The best way to avoid complications is to make everything yourself.

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Hey Mack BTW, I'm lovin the theme, I think it's going to reap alot of interesting games from alot of different people.

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Thanks, we were hoping the theme would do just that.

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Also, i request permission from Kenman to include his theme of 2 male cows in my game

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"trust in the lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding, in all your way's, acknowledge him and he will direct your path" proverbs 3:5-6

EDIT: didn't want to stick in a new post and end up spamming further.
Sorry for assuming you didn't know about FTP clients.

EDIT Again: You have to have an FTP server running/have an open port on your machine for someone to connect to you with an FTP client. If you're behind a firewall that should block casual attacks like that anyway.

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EDIT: didn't want to stick in a new post and end up spamming further.

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Sorry for assuming you didn't know about FTP clients

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"trust in the lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding, in all your way's, acknowledge him and he will direct your path" proverbs 3:5-6

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I'm not scared of using it, its just that I don't want to put stuff on my parents computer.

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If so, you could use Portable FileZilla. "Portable Apps" are just normal applications that are packaged so that you don't need to install them -- you just put them onto a USB thumb drive, and you can run them from any computer you take the USB key to.

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Originally posted by Thirddaysaved:
O ok, Thanks Mack... so I can use textures from the Gimp, and stuff like that... Blender, Deled3D? I think those are GPL...Ya... I don't like all the copyright stuff... What if we accidently use something thats not GPL?

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Pretty much, you're allowed to use any freely available resources, just give appropriate amounts of credit where credit is due. You don't have to document and cite every little forum post that you learn from -- it's just that if you got a photograph to use as a texture from some free stock photo site, then you should say at the bottom of your ReadMe.txt "Some textures acquired from www. SuperHandyCopyrightFreeStockPhotos.com" or whatever. But for little things (like small code snippets from tutorials), then I wouldn't worry about it. If you're taking large subroutines, then I'd be inclined to credit the authors -- it's all fuzzy gray areas, just try to be reasonable.

I hope that was more helpful than confusing.

Cheers!

In Christ,
clint

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EDIT: wait, do the finished games have to come in a ZIP file, or folder with the TXT in it?
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-Evdude

"trust in the lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding, in all your way's, acknowledge him and he will direct your path" proverbs 3:5-6

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do the finished games have to come in a ZIP file, or folder with the TXT in it?

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Originally posted by ThirddaySaved:
Hey, once the competition starts will we be aloud to look in other peoples folders to see what there doing, or is it all closed until the end?

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Edit: P.S. In case anyone wants to get a flavor for how the competition ran last year, here's a link to the old thread.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by CPUFreak91:
[b]It's actually 15

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Originally posted by dartsman:
oh, open source... I'm definitely out of the comp...

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Originally posted by Lazarus:
You can use stuff that ain't GPLed.

(Man, all this stuff is making me despise "[b]the viral license" even more...)
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Originally posted by evdude:
could some one with an FTP client enter me?

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Links that people can use:
Music and Sound Effects (Released under a creative commons license): The Freesound Project (http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/)

Fonts: Urban Free Fonts (http://www.urbanfonts.com) [Not sure what license]

Anybody got some known FOSS font links or should someone scan their /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ folders for some good lookin' stuff?

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I never saw the games from last year and how they were rated. Is there any sort of 'bias' over fully handmade games and generated/assisted games such as game maker or torque? for example, if two games were completely even and one was coded entirely in C++ and the other was a Torque product then is there a tie breaker? or would it be just based on how much custom work the programmers did?

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I will be more favorable to games that are created entirely by hand during the contest period.

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Mack, you should probably update the contest site to specifically say that people can start on the pre-dev stage now.

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Good idea, it's updated now.

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God bless each of the contestants! May this be for His glory!

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Too bad that there is not a place that has 'best music'

How bout next year?

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Originally posted by Mack:
The judges have one week to call votes on all the submissions. Votes can't be late; if not all the votes are in then the final judging will be based on all the votes submitted (either it be one judges votes or all of them). No ties. No categories with no winners.

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So how are you avoiding the categories with no winners?
Last time every judge voted for a different winner for best visuals resulting in a 4 way tie which translated into no winner.

Maybe instead of just picking a winner for each category they could pick the top three in each category and give them 1,2,or 3 points? The odds of every judge perfectly inverting all of there selections relative to each other should be fairly small.

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Maybe instead of just picking a winner for each category they could pick the top three in each category and give them 1,2,or 3 points? The odds of every judge perfectly inverting all of there selections relative to each other should be fairly small.

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That's a good idea.

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-Evdude

"trust in the lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding, in all your way's, acknowledge him and he will direct your path" proverbs 3:5-6

In other news...

CPU, 15 days is plenty of time, but I'm working 40 hours a week, my parents breathe fire at the mere mention of "computer games", and thanks to Dad's little "talk" today my Cortisone level is probably through the roof.

No, I won't give in... I'm going to enter something in this comp if it kills me.

/dramatic

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It's a library.

In other news...

CPU, 15 days is plenty of time, but I'm working 40 hours a week.

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My Programming and Hacker/Geek related Blog

Oh yeah, I had a question - if somebody wanted to create and enter two games in the competition, would that be allowed?

If it becomes a problem I can try and use an older version of SDL.NET which uses .NET 1.1. But I'd prefer to know this now, rather than after the contest is over. Thanks.

Maybe if they have so much extra time, they should spend it adding features/levels and debugging the game instead of making two short simple buggy games?

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Yes

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Maybe if they have so much extra time, they should spend it adding features/levels and debugging the game instead of making two short simple buggy games?

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It's up to them, I don't care

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8. The game must be able to run on one of the following environments.
i) Windows 98/2000/XP
ii) Linux
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His game won't be good, but I've been encouraging to do development.
Introduced him to GameMaker which he took too pretty well.

I've already explained to him that he's probably gonna lose, in the loving way only a brother could. so no need to go easy on him.
(Me: "Jon, I'm gonna destroy you. you're terrible"
jon: *cries*)

jk. but he has a good understanding of the competition.
But just so you don't take it easy on him, I'm gonna name his folder HanClinto.

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Soterion Studios

In this early phase of design, my ideas are not very
clear yet, but probably the game will be based upon
the "Parable of the sower" (e.g. Mark 4,3-9.13-20)

It's going to be a game of the RTS genre. I'm only a
programmer so I hope to find some good free resources
(graphics, sounds etc.) on the subject.

I'm going to use the Lua language. I'm not sure to
use my 3D engine (http://apocalyx.sourceforge.net)
because it requires an accelerated 3D graphic card
and the PC specifications are quite vague about
this topic, so I'll probably revert to pure SDL.

I can't wait August 3rd... but I have to!

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poor Jon.

Leo, that parable is probably one of the easiest ones to create a game about. There's alot of different ways you could take it.

One more week...

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Leo, that parable is probably one of the easiest ones to create a game about. There's alot of different ways you could take it.

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Welcome to CCN! I have seen your 3D engine in the past was was quite impressed! I hope you do well at the contest.

God Bless!

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I hope so, because "the sower" theme is going to generate a lot of clones

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Darn darn darn! I was going to do that theme. I thought "No one else will think of it!". Haha.
Oh well, I've found two themes that I will combine to make a cool game. I'm 90% sure that no one else will use 1 of the themes in the same way that I will use the two.

See? Competition is good. I now have a way better theme to use. I should be thanking you guys.

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"Oh, bother," said the Borg. "We've assimilated Pooh."

"Socialism works great... if there are no people involved." -- Pastor David Ginter, Union Church of Guatemala.

My Programming and Hacker/Geek related Blog

and now I have to compete with a 3D RTS.
I fear.

who are the judges so I can kiss up to?

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Soterion Studios

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Originally posted by leo:

I'm going to use the Lua language. I'm not sure to
use my 3D engine (http://apocalyx.sourceforge.net)
because it requires an accelerated 3D graphic card
and the PC specifications are quite vague about
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Welcome to CCN, Leo.

I'd use Lua or Ruby for game programming too once in a while if I weren't so familiar with Pygame.

At least I'm learning 3D coding in Boo and C#.

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"After three days without programming, life becomes meaningless.'' -- Tao of Programming Book 2

"Oh, bother," said the Borg. "We've assimilated Pooh."

"Socialism works great... if there are no people involved." -- Pastor David Ginter, Union Church of Guatemala.

My Programming and Hacker/Geek related Blog

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"trust in the lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding, in all your way's, acknowledge him and he will direct your path" proverbs 3:5-6

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"trust in the lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding, in all your way's, acknowledge him and he will direct your path" proverbs 3:5-6

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I just updated the site with Conitec GameStudios prize offerings; $200 worth of coupons for their webstore!

The theme is the Parables of Jesus, either it be a game based on the Parables itself or a game based on the point Jesus was making with the Parable.

Here's a listing of some of them, 40 different concepts:

http://www.bcbsr.com/survey/jpbl.html

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I was just goofing off checking this thread (don't have available resources for a speed contest at the moment)---and saw your link to the parables--I love that! I read the issue on the new/old garments and was fascinated hehe! It gave me new insight into Jesus' attitude and bolstered my personal belief that salvation is a sealed-and-done thing once you accept Jesus--you can't undo it. Kind of sad, some christians have popularized the whole 'faith is nothing without works' thing (I remember a song from middle school comparing it to a submarine with a screen door) but Jesus shows a totally different example there---I bookmarked it hehe---sorry for going off track but it is rare that I get such a useful link and I felt I had to give props!!

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I reserve the full right to change my views/theories at any time.

So while it can be cool to try to cover a wide array of parables, if you feel like you want to use a topic that you know someone else is covering, don't feel too bad about using the same topic. I'd encourage each of you to make your games good enough to stand on their own, irregardless of what other people are doing.

Just some thoughts.

Cheers!

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Hey, I was just wondering... How does the winner get the prizes? Is it online, or by check or something...?

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This is subject to change, but that's how I understand it at this point.

--clint

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[This message has been edited by Mene-Mene (edited July 30, 2007).]

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Originally posted by jestermax:
Mack is awesome. Somewhere on CCN is a picture of Mack sitting in an empty bathtub... also theres one of Mack with horns (sitting in front of a poster)...

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You forgot the picture of Mack wearing a pink shirt.

Hmm... ideas, ideas...
(lol. I just had to edit my post because I was saying something else and came up with an idea for the competition within what I was saying.)

Is anyone going for 3D this time?

Also i am making a 2d game cause it'll take less time to generate the game art and i can have more of it. Also, it'll give me some more time to compose the music for the game.

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Originally posted by samw3:
I have seen your 3D engine in the past was was quite impressed! I hope you do well at the contest.

Originally posted by ThirddaySaved:
Wow! Leo I looked at the 3D engine, and it is fantastic! I'm a bit confused though... Did you create the engine yourself with C or something? Or there a teem for it...? Anyways... hope you do well Leo

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Thanks! I developed the 3D engine myself starting from a demo developed for the 2001 "NeHe Apocalypse Contest" (NeHe is a famous site about OpenGL programming http://nehe.gamedev.net ). Then I have added a lot of open source libraries to make my (poor) 3D engine become a Game engine.

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Originally posted by ArchAngel:
and now I have to compete with a 3D RTS.

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Unluckily, I can't use my engine for the contest. I'm only a programmer and I usually use free resources for my demos. It's very difficult to find 3D resources in theme with the contest in a short time.
I think to use LuaSDL instead (a SDL binding to the Lua language) with some 2D resources that fit well with the parable of the sower.
Here you can find a link to a concept-screenshot that gives an idea of the look & feel
http://www.gameace.org/~CCNcontest07/leo/the_sower_concept.jpg
Of course, starting from scratch, like kenman wants to do, will be more appreciated by the judges.

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Originally posted by CPUFreak91:
Oh well, I've found two themes that I will combine to make a cool game. I'm 90% sure that no one else will use 1 of the themes in the same way that I will use the two.

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If I had more time, my ideal design for "The Sower" game would be made of the following parables: Mattew 13,3-9.18-30.36-43 + Mattew 20,1-16 + Mattew 25,31-46 + Luke 12,16-21.35-40

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Originally posted by HanClinto:
Just a quick word about people using the same parables (such as the "Lost Sheep" parable) -- I for one am looking forward to people making similar games and seeing how they play out. Even if they're the same topic and the same genre, they can still have unique takes.

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I think that the results will be very different even if using the same resources. So if anyone is unable, like I am, to create acceptable graphics and wants to program a game about "The Sower" or "The Lost Sheep", at the famous site http://reinerstileset.4players.de there are good free sprites.

Here you can find a concept-screenshot made with those sprites http://www.gameace.org/~CCNcontest07/leo/the_sower_concept.jpg . Of course, it is only a composite image, I haven't started yet the programming phase.
My ideal result is very near to that image, but is too complex for only two weeks of programming, so I'll try to realize at least the basic idea.

In the "screenshot" there are also two dead crows: If it is considered too violent, I can remove that option from my design

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That's one done. (hopefully one well done)

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Originally posted by Lazarus:
Is anyone going for 3D this time?

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I think because not one of of us are really good a coding and 3D graphics most people will be doing it in 2D. You kinda need a Pyweek team to do a good looking 3D game.

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and oh, EVDude, my brother will be doing the Lost Sheep, but don't worry. The games end up radically different so overlapping parallels is not a problem.

last competition we had 3, maybe 4, games doing the 7 churches in Revelations. Each turned out entirely different.

I really want to focus on good, fluid game play.

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Originally posted by samw3:
I really want to focus on good, fluid game play.

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Best Fun Game (Gameplay) Best Original Concept (Design) Best Build (Stability)

The idea in my head will probably win me a prize in Best Fun Game or Best Original Concept. I'm leaning towards gameplay but my gut says I'll probably win in original concept.

5 more days....

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Originally posted by Mene-Mene:
CPU: You've got my goals! Arg, pick some other catagory. jk.

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I think what they mean by open source is that anything you write in the way of source files (code) or media (sounds, sprites, models, etc.) is to be released with the game as open source.

But any libraries/game engines you use are fair game, even if they are closed source.

Is this right Mac?

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Originally posted by samw3:
I think what they mean by open source is that anything you write in the way of source files (code) or media (sounds, sprites, models, etc.) is to be released with the game as open source.

But any libraries/game engines you use are fair game, even if they are closed source.

Is this right Mac?

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Originally posted by leo:
Here you can find a concept-screenshot made with those sprites http://www.gameace.org/~CCNcontest07/leo/the_sower_concept.jpg

*snip*

In the "screenshot" there are also two dead crows: If it is considered too violent, I can remove that option from my design

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And I'll say that dead crows are fine, so long as it's an element (and not the overarching focus) of your game.

--clint

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Originally posted by Mene-Mene:
what qualifies as a library?

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My answer:
Correct me if what I say violates any of this competition's rules, Mack, but according to Pyweek rules, you can use any body of code that won't run by itself when you execute the file (whether it be compiled or interpreted). According to Pyweek rules, if you wrote your own library a month before the competition it's legal to use if you made it distributable several weeks before the competition. I don't know how this compares to the CSGC (CCN Speed Game Competition) rules so you may want to ask Mack about your own libraries.

Wikipedia's answer:
In computer science, a library is a collection of subprograms used to develop software. Libraries are distinguished from executables in that they are not independent programs; rather, they are "helper" code that provides services to some other independent program. Today the vast majority of the code that executes in a typical application is located in the libraries it uses.

Actually, I'll ask Mack himself since I'm curious :P
Mack, can you use your own libraries?

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[This message has been edited by CPUFreak91 (edited July 30, 2007).]

[This message has been edited by CPUFreak91 (edited July 30, 2007).]

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How does the winner get the prizes?

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Would killing animals qualify as extreme violence?

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What about the wounding of humans? (Not gameplay involving the wounding, but humans being wounded)

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I think what they mean by open source is that anything you write in the way of source files (code) or media (sounds, sprites, models, etc.) is to be released with the game as open source.

But any libraries/game engines you use are fair game, even if they are closed source.

Is this right Mac?

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what qualifies as a library?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_(computing)

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I hear that CPU just downloaded some great music to listen to during the competition, or to use in the game!

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Originally posted by kenman:
Yeah,m unless you are planning on working full time during the competition!

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I hear that CPU just downloaded some great music to listen to during the competition, or to use in the game!

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I am planning on working full time next two weeks. Actually I might take a vacation day or two. My goal is to complete a game.

As far as open source music, you really could not use music from that CD as most of the songs are copyrighted (except bell storm and judgement mountain by the way), but if you want open source, you can go to

last.fm and do a search for ken wagman, click on albums and the songs that are downloadable are free to use.

They are also fun to listen to!

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But yeah -- I'll be snatching some weekends and the occasional free evening for any game that I make for this comp.

--clint

Most of the games in the last CCN competition were too ambitious.

I'm working 50+ hours a week at my day job, but I'll try to do something if I can come up with a simple enough design.

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As for my game, I'm pretty short on time this competition, so I'll probably enter a game done either in Python with Pygame, or I'll use Torque Game Builder.

Torque Game Builder pretty good, Han?
Note to self, win Torque Game Builder...

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Originally posted by ArchAngel:
I'm going for C#. I've enjoyed it thus far, via .NET. mmmmm... .NET.... *drools*

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Originally posted by ArchAngel:
Torque Game Builder pretty good, Han?

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Originally posted by renegader_bj:
How bout the rest of you? what are you all going to do your game in?

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So, I'm going C# route as well. I've found a pretty well rounded library named SpriteCraft that I'm happy with.

I'll be working my fulltime job as well while doing this as well. So, I agree with steveth45 regarding having an attainable scope.

And, this is my first time in a LONG time writing a game. So we'll see how it goes.

But, I'm really excited about contributing to the christian gaming community and promoting CCN! I really pray that we all will finish well, and God will get the glory for it all.

God Bless!

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Which is better than writing your game on papyrus

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But not by much...

Umm... I'll probably use either my GLBasic demo or my TGB demo. If worst comes to worst I'll just use GameMaker, though.

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Originally posted by renegader_bj:
what are you all going to do your game in?

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The sprites that I've found (you can find above a link) are quite large, because they waste a lot of space in the borders. The amusing fact is that I'm using my engine to compact the sprite animations is a single image. Thus LuaSDL is the engine of the game, while the "Apocalyx 3D engine" is the tool to pack graphics together

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Originally posted by renegader_bj:
How bout the rest of you? what are you all going to do your game in?

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I'm doing mine with C++\SDL.

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Originally posted by HanClinto:
Man, it'd be great to have enough time to blast 2 solid weeks of coding on a game -- wow.

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The timing of this contest didn't work well for my team. But the discussion of it did spur some new objectives and new motivations for us, so we still win! Hope you all have fun playing!

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Just to sum up some of the questions floating around.

I'll be working at my full time job just like many others mentioned. Plus normal wife/kids/family things...even a short family vacation in there. Steveth45 is correct. I learned from last year's competition to not be overambitious. I hope my plan for this year's entry will be easier to attain.

Last year, though, I had zero plans to enter. It wasn't until after several days into the competition, Steveth finally convinced me to do something. So I started late, using the brand new XNA beta so I had to learn it, having never written a game, learning 2D tile programming....IT WAS A BLAST!!!!!!!!

I plan to use C#/SDL.NET and 2D tiles.

I am using what appears to be one of the more popular choices of parables.

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Originally posted by ArchAngel:
I, and most of us, are working full time.

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I'm probably going to use TGB to save some time on the more tedious tasks (like image blitting, collision, etc...) and so I can focus more on the gameplay. It will be fun to see the outcome of everyone's game.

By the way, when does the competition officially start? Friday or Saturday morning? Midnight is a little ambiguous being the beginning and end of the day.

Good luck everyone!

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I, and most of us, are working full time. so essentially, we'll have to say good bye to our weekends.

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I don't think I'll enter, I don't even get weekends off from work (crunch mode to the max)... pretty much waking up at 5am and getting home at 11pm (stupid traveling to/from work doesn't help either)...

Ya never know though, I might whip up something during my 2nd job (free time to code really :P), as long as no students ask me any questions :P hehe...

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Anyways!

Competition Starts Tonight!.. er, well technically its the first minute of tomorrow. but still.. W00t!!!11

I've got this thing designed about as far as it can go, and now I'm really itching to get started!

I noticed that we have 14 entries on the ftp. I feel it will be some stiff competition. God bless each one of us!

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Originally posted by samw3:
Competition Starts Tonight!.. er, well technically its the first minute of tomorrow. but still.. W00t!!!11

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Originally posted by HanClinto:
I'm not sure if it starts Thursday night or Friday night. Mack, care to rule on this one? It doesn't matter to me which we do, though it'd be nice to have the final word. We should also establish which time zone we're going off of -- I think PST would be fine.

--clint

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Hmm... I just assumed since CCN is Eastern. I had always considered midnight as occuring at the beginning of the next day, but I guess officially it's ambiguous.

Arrg! Its like Christmas morning 12:01am and my parents are telling me to go back to bed.

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Originally posted by kenman:
great on to coding tens of thousands of meaningless stuff in visual basic!

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I can't wait either, Ken.

Yes, a visit to the closest carpal tunnel clinic with 0.25% off, or a free trip to do my laundry!

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1. Get gui up and working
3. Take Break
4. Get sprites created
5. Take Break
6. Get music created
7. Take Break
8. Put sprites on GUI
9. Take Break
10. Get game functioning
11. Take Break

Once I get the game functioning better, I will work on game play, a working game has to be something?

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I'm not sure if it starts Thursday night or Friday night. Mack, care to rule on this one?

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I'll make the post on here and the site when it's start time. I'll probably make the annoucement in 3 hours.

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The TODO list for my game looks like this:
1. Work on menus and possibly animated menu backgrounds
2. Find sound effects for menus
2.4. Create the sprites needed to play a basic level
2.5. Take break/sleep whatever time this may be.
3. Get basic level functioning
4. Look for in-game music on the web
4.5. Take break/sleep whatever time this may be.
5. Finish level(s)
5.5. Create the remainder of the sprites needed to play
6. Debug
6.5. Take break/sleep whatever time this may be.
7. Debug
8. Upload to ftp site and wait for judging results

I like simplicity... can't you tell? My game will be simple to.

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Hardcore!

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Originally posted by cohort X:
You only plan on sleeping three times in the next two weeks?
Hardcore!

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GO! GO! GO! THE CONTEST STARTS NOW!

http://www.gameace.org/~ChristianCoders/

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GO! GO! GO!

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Good luck all, btw, contestants, I made a suggestion in the What type of coder are you? thread.

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Originally posted by Mack:
[b]GOOD LUCK!
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Some of us are going to need it...

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i hope i win

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I am quite happy to say that I can enter too , after all, just have to put main projects on pause and thank God for this refreshing break on new project! Last night while reading some Bible the idea for a game started to form (PTL).

@Jestermax your attidute in entering this competition is out of ordinary! But seriously I try not to think about winnning... it distracts

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@Jestermax your attidute in entering this competition is out of ordinary! But seriously I try not to think about winnning... it distracts

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Haha, i was just messing around. In the movie Rat Race, Rowin Atkinson (mr. bean) gets all excited when he hears he's in a race and keeps saying "it's a race! i hope i win". Also, Smash Mouth was in that movie, which made that movie awesome

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I'm still deciding what tileset to use. I started using Hillman's tileset that I used last year (http://www.molotov.nu/Graphics/Hillmann/RPG_Tiles_05.png), but it doesn't quite have what I need. Still looking around, or, I may end up having my kid's draw them to give it a different look. I'm kind of going for a kid's game anyway, and children's drawings may actually end up working.

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[This message has been edited by Mene-Mene (edited August 03, 2007).]

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Can you win multiple catagories?

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Originally posted by Mene-Mene:
What if you made code before that would fit perfectly for your situation, but you didn't know you would use it until now, could you use it? or would you have to rewrite it.

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Basically, if it's a small utility function, you can use it. If it's game-specific code, then you'll need to rewrite it.

--clint

Opened visual studio and created a project!

I have my mind working, now to start coding!

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I have yet to start any actual coding or drawing -- we're still hashing out gameplay and throwing around more concept sketches and theoretical program structures.

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Today I wrote four chiptune songs using FamiTracker. Here is one for the first level of the game.

I also have been working on some sprites.

Here is my main character Ronan the shepherd, walking.

EDIT: Oh! btw, I'm using the free version of GraphicsGale for my sprite editor.

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Luke's Garden Menu (UNFINISHED)

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[This message has been edited by CPUFreak91 (edited August 03, 2007).]

The game has a pixel perfect GUI which is essential to be able to use several in-game features. Aside from laying out the basic frame upon which the game is built, the H.U.D slides in to the window when you first start the game, and slides out when you exit to the main menu.

After finding out that my original coding structure plans weren't going to work I spent some time experimenting with different methods of calculating game variables and blitting them to the screen using Phil's Pygame Utilities's kind of restrictive functions. In P.G.U, there are two important functions inside a class: loop() and paint(). loop() is used for the code that needs to be re-calculated every frame. paint() blits those items to the screen. Anything that will be blitted needs to be in a function called init(). It differs from my way of thinking, but I've grown used to and, and I think I like it (somewhat).

Game Completion Estimation: 20%

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I'm thankful to have gotten so far on the first day -- my teammate and I are both married and working full time, so we chose a (relatively) small scope tile puzzle game. Today saw the completion of the first design doc draft, as well as the first prototype that shows off some of the game mechanic and eye-candy framework. No screenshots yet as it's all still very much programmer art, but still happy progress so far. We're very thankful to have had an evening of blessed work.

Thanks everyone for the updates! Screenshots look great -- Ken, that looks like some nice Poser usage. On your proto screen, I'm impressed at how quickly you've laid out so many of the GUI elements, in addition to doing so much art.
Joe, I like the tree, and especially the font you chose.
Sam, I'm particularly impressed w/ the walking shepherd sprite -- I love the character depth you've put in so far, and I really look forward to seeing more!

Blessings to you all, and thanks for what you bring to this community event!

In Christ,
clint

I'm really enjoying this style of art I'm making/using.
(BTW, Clint, the font I'm using is called "Ani Not-Rotated"). I found it in my open source fonts directory in Kubuntu.

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Originally posted by kenman:
Hey, I did a drawing like that a few weeks ago

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They must only play in E...hee hee, that's awesome!

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Originally posted by mastallama:
They must only play in E...hee hee, that's awesome!

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No they play in the key of Sea, See!

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Originally posted by kenman:
No they play in the key of Sea, See!

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Or wouldn't be High Seas (I know what is Mike doing making a music based joke)

I've been away on vacation with a few hours of coding time each night. So, unfortunately, I can't be putting much time in these days. Even so, I am quite happy with what I have been able to accomplish.

I ended up using the Hillman's tileset I used in last year's game, overlayed with some of Reiner's Tilesets. I had some funky coding to do since the tilesets are in completely different sizes 51x51 vs. 64x46. But I now have it worked out where I programatically redraw part of the Reiner tileset to make it completely draw to fill the height. I also used The Gimp to convert Reiner's tiles to PNG format and I made the weird pink color he had into transparency.

I'm already learning quite a bit. I did a 2D tile game last year using SDL.NET (same thing I'm doing this year) and I am finding better ways of doing some stuff this time around. :-) I'm also thinking differently about my classes.

> If it's a small, general purpose library routine, then I think most
> programmers have a collection of snippets like that which they use in a
> variety of circumstances, and copy/pasting those routines between
> projects is just part of what programming is about.

Good to hear. I was worried about this. Since I did a 2D tile game last year, I was wondering if my one-line calculation of figuring out where to pluck out the necessary tile from the PNG image was going to be a problem. I figured it wouldn't since it's just the nature of reading tiles from an image file.

I think I have my game figured out, but I'm not sure it really has that right hook. I'm trying to finalize what the catch is. What draws you to play it? So I'm still working out details and stuff, while programming the interface and walking around. I'm trying to keep the scope down to something I can manage for the contest.

I'm also wondering if I should do my entire interface as GUI images (options, messages, etc.) or if I should throw up some regular ol' Windows dialogs for setting options and displaying messages. One certainly has the cool looking factor to it, but I can program the other rather quickly. So I'm weighing the 'nice look' vs. 'speed, ease'. Unfortunately, I was unable to find GUI controls for SDL.NET, or I would go that route. Anyone know of anything?

Oh well. Just taking a short break for the day. We've been out all day. Had a nice time out in a canoe earlier this morning. As soon as I finish this off, I'll head out on my bike and meet my wife/kids over at one of the pools.

[This message has been edited by ssquared (edited August 04, 2007).]

The bird flies around the upper part of the screen and behind the nice title I made.

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Notice I have 7972 lines of code so far

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Unfortunately, I was unable to find GUI controls for SDL.NET, or I would go that route. Anyone know of anything?

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to photoshop:

Anyway, I'm still not tellin' what my game is about

[This message has been edited by mastallama (edited August 05, 2007).]

I hardly got any sleep last night. Not because I was working on the game, but I couldn't stop thinking about it. I went to bed at 1:20 AM, but was up past 2:00 AM thinking and planning the design. I woke up around 5:00 AM and lay there thinking and planning the design until my kids came in around 8:15 AM. But I think I have everything figured out!!! I am so excited and running on complete adrenalin right now.

I got my main point of the game working last night. So it's now playable, but...not fun. Now I need to add all the elements to create the gameplay.

> I'm not sure if it's still working, but there used to be some CEGui
> examples w/ SDL.Net.

I found that awhile back, CEGui for C#: http://ceguisharp.sourceforge.net/index.php/Main_Page but there wasn't really anything there so I did not pursue it further. Thanks for the input. After rethinking things (through my sleepless night), I don't really think I need special GUI anyway. Using Windows.Forms will probably be just fine.

> Anyway, I'm still not tellin' what my game is about.

Same here. I don't really want to know what other's are, either. It can lead me to wonder if I am doing something similar, or may make me concerned about adding something later that may appear similar to something someone mentioned.

Part of my game is a quiz, and I had a tough time figuring a routine to shuffle the questions and answers. I switched a couple of variables in the shuffle routine and I was getting it right for some and not right for others.

I also added an easter egg to help you get ahead in the game!

Ready for a break. I am done with my music too. I might add one more tune, but mostly I am done

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Also, I've finished the game intro. Here is a screen shot.

Keep up the good work everyone! May God be praised!

God Bless!

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Originally posted by samw3:
Whew. I'm making good progress on my sprites. I've just finished the face tiles(18 total) for the dialog scenes. Here are a couple

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Nice face tiles. What program did you make them with? Are you using a Wacom & stylus or something like that?

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God Bless!

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[This message has been edited by samw3 (edited August 05, 2007).]

ominously creepy, but in a good way.

SamW, that's some great screens. I officially just gave up hope for the graphics category.

On the brightside, I just bought Civ IV: Beyond the Sword for 15 bucks. booyakasha.

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Originally posted by mastallama:
infinite loops in a function in an include file are hard to find...

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Well at least you know where to start looking.

I have to stop for the night, got the laptop picked up. I found a few bugs playing. I'm doing a teaching game. Hopefully some one will learn something.

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Ummmm, yeah. Me too. I never really did HAVE plans for it, though. If I have time, I'll try and do some music. Sounds like others will be doing music, too. But it is really on the bottom of my to-do list.

Kenman, good to hear you are ahead. I have found myself ahead as well. I have a COMPLETELY different outlook this year than last year. My hope last year was to just have my game do something with a beginning, middle, and win state. In three days, I already, technically, have a working game.

We're back from our trip. I am completely wiped out. Part of me has some development goals for the night, and part of me is ready to slump into bed.

If anyone wants to join a BlitzTeam, or want to help with graphics, I'm very open, I've little hope now. Well, maybe i'll get extra points for my hardship. I've got some game ideas, but most of them beyond me.

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[This message has been edited by Mene-Mene (edited August 06, 2007).]

I will have some time in the next few days to work my next goals.

1. User manual
2. Debugging
3. Game play

I am anxious to see if anyone else will post a screen shot. I am sure that I am not the only one who would like this. Seeing others work motivates me to push to be better.

The first weekend of coding is over. Last year I entered with my brother and he had a personal issue develop during the competition. It was amazing that we did as good as we did. If we had the ability to spend more time I think we had the basis for a killer game. This year I decided to go alone and developed a framework of ideas over the two days before the competition. I tweak my poser and photoshop skills. I also had pyweek behind me from last year. I learned how to create several hundred little 32x32 sprites used that skill to whip the art out quickly this year. I might add a journal of writing the game to the help file that will be included in the .zip, just for fun!

God Bless, Ken

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Originally posted by ssquared:
In three days, I already, technically, have a working game.

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Originally posted by ssquared:
In three days, I already, technically, have a working game.

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You guys are amazing. Three days to crank out a game? (Reminds me of another three day miracle)

I definitely do not have anything near a working game yet. I've built out a basic framework and got the menus and input system working.

As for the "meat" of the game, I've got designs, but no code yet.

BTW, I've about finalized my game's story. I've posted it on my blog if anyone is interested, however its kind of a spoiler.

Keep up the good work!

God Bless!

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[This message has been edited by samw3 (edited August 06, 2007).]

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"The generation of random numbers is too important to leave to chance."
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Originally posted by kenman:
Hey, I did a drawing like that a few weeks ago

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Gibson in red (guitar)

Spector in natural wood (bass) ... maybe....

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Originally posted by samw3:
You guys are amazing. Three days to crank out a game?

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Like I mentioned earlier, you can accomplish a game level's goal, but there is really no fun aspect yet or real meat to it yet. Think of Tic-Tac-Toe with only X's. Sure, you can get three X's in a row rather easily, but it's when you add the O's where the game becomes fun.

But last year, I would have been THRILLED if I got to this point by the END of the competition. This year, I decided not to have computer AI in my game as that really took up most of my time and I did not fully finish the implementation. This year, my goal was to have something more than simply, "Yeah! My game actually does something."

> I've built out a basic framework and got the menus and input system working.

I worked on one of my menu screens last night. I'm concerned it may end up being wasted effort as there is a potential for it not to get used.

I've been thinking of doing a Developer Diary too for my README file. I started jotting down notes last night, but am already forgetting exactly what I worked on the previous nights.

How many people are actually involved this year? Maybe people are too focused on their game to write a little something.

[This message has been edited by ssquared (edited August 06, 2007).]

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I've been thinking of doing a Developer Diary too for my README file. I started jotting down notes last night, but am already forgetting exactly what I worked on the previous nights.

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I'm just posting the milestones. I don't plan on posting every bug I find. (Lots of bugs = lots of time ... and I always have lots of bugs )

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Originally posted by ssquared:
How many people are actually involved this year? Maybe people are too focused on their game to write a little something.

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I'm counting 16 in on the FTP server. Some people like mastallama like it to be a surprise

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Originally posted by kenman:
I am anxious to see if anyone else will post a screen shot. I am sure that I am not the only one who would like this. Seeing others work motivates me to push to be better.

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well, since you asked...(i'll put up a screen shot when I get home)

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On newer machines, the player can experience dynamic ray-tracing and the latest advances in parallax mapping.

From the player's view, you can actually look down at a bald spot on the camel's head and see red enemies approaching from the rear. We're really excited about this.

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In all seriousness, we're making good progress and that fake picture is all you're getting for now. :P

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Our Game: The 1337 Crazy Camel Chase 3D

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Hmm. I call that game, "Bob, Camel".

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Originally posted by kenman:
I am anxious to see if anyone else will post a screen shot. I am sure that I am not the only one who would like this. Seeing others work motivates me to push to be better.

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here you are:

Here is a short(520KB) movie clip of what my shepherd can do so far(from all angles).
EDIT: btw, he's supposed to be hitting with his staff.

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Cool. I am just working on docs and bugfixes on the laptop.

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nice! That's a good looking map.

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Wow it's like HE Man Master of the Sherpardverse!

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Thanks! the map was made with Mappy, and the shepherd was made with the free version of GraphicsGale(thanks for the link, samw3).

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ha ha, super teaser!

now, I'm not using that one specifically. it's temp art until I finish the game and put in more refined art. but yes. I will have a flying saucer.

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I used tile studio for the tiles and Pixen for the main character.

samw3, I am impressed with your artwork. It looks extremely professional.

HeardTheWord, I didn't know you used a Mac as well? (you said you did the art in Pixen -- that's Mac only, right?)

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Who here is not developing their game on Winders?

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Originally posted by Ereon:
Hrm, is it too late to enter? I lost my job at the lumber yard so I might be able to churn out a game.

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I definitely don't think it's too late to enter. At the last PyWeek (a week long Python game programming contest), I didn't enter until the very last day. You've missed less than half of the competition time -- I'd say that if you've got the time and interest, go for it!

--clint

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Originally posted by CPUFreak91:
Who here is not developing their game on Winders?

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Originally posted by HanClinto:
*raises one hand, whilst the other cuddles his Mac*

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What are you using to make the game? I have a Mac mini but I only use it for recording...

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Originally posted by heardtheword:
Here's a screenshot of my game. I decided to go with the ten virgins parable.

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I'm 60% done with my game now. I added the second most important gameplay last night.

Let me regale you with an interesting tale:
I was testing my game in the wee hours of the morning and suddenly I started dropping frames. Then my mouse did not move smoothly. Then it took 10 seconds for the computer to register a keypress in my window manager. I'm using a Macboook Pro with 2GB of RAM and a 2.16Ghz Dual Core processor. My first thoughts were "Where the heck did I got wrong? This game must have some kind of infinite bloated loop that I didn't know about."

So I killed my game. But my situation did not improve. Then I saw that I had left Firefox running for over 16 hours. Checking my free memory, I noticed I only had 3MB free (I don't have swap space/virtual memory 'cause I don't need it yet).

By killing Firefox, I freed up 912MB of RAM. But that wasn't enough. Due to FF2's nasty memory leak "feature" under Linux I had to reboot to reclaim the rest of the memory FireFox ate and wouldn't free up.

The moral of my story? Don't write bloated code, the judges won't favor slow games as much as ones that run better. (Oh, and don't run Firefox under Linux with the Gnash and AdBlock plugin either).

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"Socialism works great... if there are no people involved." -- Pastor David Ginter, Union Church of Guatemala.

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Currently, I'm working on my dialog system while discussing art with jestermax et al in another thread.

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Originally posted by mastallama:
What are you using to make the game? I have a Mac mini but I only use it for recording...

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This time it's not a fake screenshot made with a paint program like
http://www.gameace.org/~CCNcontest07/leo/the_sower_concept.jpg
but is an actual screenshot created programmatically using LuaSDL, thus I've learnt to use SDL Surfaces and TT Fonts. There is still a long way to go, so I'd better to start the 2D level editor ASAP

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APOCALYX 3D Engine
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Originally posted by samw3:
That's not just a linux bug. My ff on windows frequently pegs my memory meter. As we speak its at 104MB and I just started a fresh process this morning.

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Boy am I having bad luck. I just killed two other programs that are also eating up abnormally large amounts of memory. I'm going to look into this.

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Originally posted by leo:
Just the first screenshot of the game
http://www.gameace.org/~CCNcontest07/leo/title_screen.jpg

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I'm quite excited to try all of these games.

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Originally posted by samw3:
Whew. I'm making good progress on my sprites. I've just finished the face tiles(18 total) for the dialog scenes. Here are a couple

Also, I've finished the game intro. Here is a screen shot.

Keep up the good work everyone! May God be praised!

God Bless!

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What program are you using to do this in?! It looks awesome! I love old school 2d games This reminds me of the RPG Maker engine.

btw, what sort of engine would you use the sprites from this site for?
http://reinerstileset.4players.de/englisch.htm

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Originally posted by arissa_nightblade:
What program are you using to do this in?! It looks awesome! I love old school 2d games This reminds me of the RPG Maker engine.

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That's hand coded c# Just wait until you see it parallax. Thanks for the complement! I am using the SpriteCraft library to simplify the graphic/sound/input systems. I'm really excited about the project!

I've developed most of the graphics with Macromedia Fireworks and GraphicsGale.

I build them as 80x80 pixel and scale them down. Here is an example of one of the originals

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We had to withdraw from the contest before it started because my lead (and only active currently) programmer has to be gone for half the timeperiod. But the contest did inspire me with a new development cycle that we're going to begin implementing next week. We're going to be extractiong portions of the Visions design and creating mini-games out of it, releasing these as little glimpses into the world of Visions, and then putting the work back into Visions to advance progress on the main project as well. We're hoping this will help to raise morale (by seeing something FINISHED at semi-regular intervals), as well as to get Visions done faster, and perhaps generate a little income to make the company viable and self-reliant. So if any of you are interested in playing with some torque scripting after this contest is over, come talk to me! We're looking for more programmers.

Meanwhile, GAME ON! I want to see what you all come up with!

Blessings to you,
-Sparkling

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Originally posted by arissa_nightblade:
btw, what sort of engine would you use the sprites from this site for?
http://reinerstileset.4players.de/englisch.htm

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Basically, I think they are flexible enough that they can work well in whatever language you want to use -- you really have the freedom to use whatever you're most comfortable coding in.

--clint

[This message has been edited by HanClinto (edited August 07, 2007).]

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HeardTheWord, I didn't know you used a Mac as well? (you said you did the art in Pixen -- that's Mac only, right?)

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Yeah, I recently converted to the Mac and I just can't go back to a PC. The software that comes with it is great and I've had nothing but good things to say about it. Something that really sold me was the ability to plug in my printer and have it available to print within the next 5 seconds (Windows took several minutes to find the driver and then failed).

Thankfully, there is BootCamp for some of the programs I need Windows for. Visual Studio, FLStudio, and Tile Studio. And I've found I get better performance on my Mac than my custom built PC, which hasn't been used for about 2 months.

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Wow IMO that parable would be a tough nut to crack in 2 weeks. I look forward to playing your game.

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Thanks for the encouraging words! I'm using TGB which greatly reduces the amount of code that needs to be written so I hope to finish all the features I had planned. If not, there is always a possibility I will add them after the competition.

I think the most promising project so far is the camel game with shader technology. In a way it looks better than Unreal 3, and will most likely be more fun.

I'm at least trying to make an effort this year with my sprites. Since I have no skill in creating images, I just did super quick things last year. Here are some game pieces from last year's game (Archer and Scout):

This year I'm trying to make things look better and will actually try and spend at least some effort on making things look decent. Here is an image from this year's game.

I started out with this bag of seeds:

and eventually updated to this:

Ereon, that is a total bummer about your job. Sorry to hear that. I recently worked as a software developer for a sawmill optimization company. Never made it out to Ohio, though. It's definitely not too late to enter the contest. Last year I didn't start until either Tuesday or maybe Wednesday.

arissa_nightblade, I am using the Pathways set from Reiner's Tilesets, and Leo is also using Reiner's tilesets. Any engine should be able to take advantage of them. I am using SDL.NET and C#. I did need to do some editing to get the transparency I wanted and converted the files to PNG using The Gimp.

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Anyway, we'll see how this turns out for me. As for everyone else, my best wishes!

Oh. Does this have to be Windows compliant? I saw it come up earlier, but I wanted to know if C++/SDL developed for the OS X platform would be alright (should easily port to Linux, and even Windows, but my Windows facilities are a bit limited). Would it be alright if I focus on an OS X build?

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"Socialism works great... if there are no people involved." -- Pastor David Ginter, Union Church of Guatemala.

My Programming and Hacker/Geek related Blog

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Originally posted by CPUFreak91:
Well, I'm taking a break from working my game for a day or two to catch up on some things in normal life that I'm getting behind on.

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Yep. I hear ya. I've thought about taking a day off just to recuperate from the late nights.

I should really take a step back from the coding and work on creating the maps. I'm planning a total of ten maps (game levels), so I need to really get cracking on them. I have all of the tile engine and level transitioning working, so it's just a matter of creating the maps. I also still have some more gameplay elements to add. Sadly, one gameplay element is getting axed.

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Originally posted by ssquared:
Yep. I hear ya. I've thought about taking a day off just to recuperate from the late nights.

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Well as I pause development for 36-48 hours I'd like to announce that my game is playable and fun. The gameplay is a bit slow, but it will pick up and move faster once I add a couple more features.

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All Your Base Are Belong To Us!!! chown -r us ./base
"After three days without programming, life becomes meaningless.'' -- Tao of Programming Book 2

"Oh, bother," said the Borg. "We've assimilated Pooh."

"Socialism works great... if there are no people involved." -- Pastor David Ginter, Union Church of Guatemala.

My Programming and Hacker/Geek related Blog

Here's a screenshot!

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"trust in the lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding, in all your way's, acknowledge him and he will direct your path" proverbs 3:5-6

[This message has been edited by evdude (edited August 07, 2007).]

Oh well.

Will do more tommorow

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"trust in the lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding, in all your way's, acknowledge him and he will direct your path" proverbs 3:5-6

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O Praise Christ, O Praise Christ, He Is Holy, He Is Holy - O Praise Him

We're standing on the shores of forever - where stars are shining brighter than before. And peace is the Prince of the moment. Our hearts are so weary from the war.

Who is on first. ~ Well what are you asking me for?
I'm not asking you, I'm telling you - Who is on first. ~ I'm asking you who's on first!
That's the mans name. ~ Thats who's name?
Yes. ~ Well go ahead and tell me.
Who. ~ The guy on first.
Who! ~ The first baseman!!
Who is on first!!

Everyone's art is looking great! I can't wait to play all your games (which will be 100 times better than mine )

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leo wrote:
Just the first screenshot of the game
http://www.gameace.org/~CCNcontest07/leo/title_screen.jpg

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Finally, a screenshot of the terrain editor...
http://www.gameace.org/~CCNcontest07/leo/terrain_editor.jpg

... and another title screen, just in case of a last minute change
http://www.gameace.org/~CCNcontest07/leo/title_screen2.jpg

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HanClinto wrote:
http://reinerstileset.4players.de/englisch.htm
I think that Leo is using those same sprites with LuaSDL, which is a binding to SDL from the Lua scripting language.

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APOCALYX 3D Engine
http://apocalyx.sourceforge.net

[This message has been edited by leo (edited August 08, 2007).]

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Originally posted by samw3:
Woohoo! I've got the dialog system done! It was a bit of a pain. I ended up restructuring it twice, but I ended up with a design now that is more easily integrated into my story sequence engine.

Here's a screenshot!

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Totally love it!

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Originally posted by leo:
Finally, a screenshot of the terrain editor...
http://www.gameace.org/~CCNcontest07/leo/terrain_editor.jpg

... and another title screen, just in case of a last minute change
http://www.gameace.org/~CCNcontest07/leo/title_screen2.jpg

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HanClinto wrote:
[b]http://reinerstileset.4players.de/englisch.htm
I think that Leo is using those same sprites with LuaSDL, which is a binding to SDL from the Lua scripting language.

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Is this going to be a point and click game? It's looking great so far!

[This message has been edited by arissa_nightblade (edited August 08, 2007).]

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If you ain't in the forums, you in the againstums :)

now, join the Arch Side, and we can win this competition, as some dude and some other dude.

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Soterion Studios

It takes this (test tiles)

and this (a bitmap of the map)

and produces this (a map)

pardon the magenta.. it's my "transparent" color.

Next I'm on to my world engine i.e. game play

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http://www.art.twobrotherssoftware.com/music/burnweed.mp3

in music game play sample

and the end theme

http://www.art.twobrotherssoftware.com/music/endtheme.mp3

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Looks like some good stuff out there. You all seem to really know how to use your graphic tools. I'll have to become more familiar with sprite creation next time around.

I now have two maps. I'm going to try for making one map a day. I figure that will take me until next Wednesday to get all ten. In addition, I'll mix in gameplay additions and other tidbits each day.

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Originally posted by arissa_nightblade:
http://www.gameace.org/~CCNcontest07/leo/terrain_editor.jpg
http://www.gameace.org/~CCNcontest07/leo/title_screen2.jpg
Is this going to be a point and click game? It's looking great so far!

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Ciao, leo
APOCALYX 3D Engine
http://apocalyx.sourceforge.net

I am using that, using a puzzle strategy game type twist with the ability to answer trivia questions getting more ability to defeat the enemies in the game.

I am very close to being done, now what I have to do is add routines to tweak game play.

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P.S. The Teamspeak server is still open if anyone wants to hop on. I'll probably be on till 10-11 tonight EST.

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So far I've gotten the movement mechanics integrated. The character (for now represented by the small white sphere) can move back and forth, jump, and double jump, which will be all the basic movement necessary for now. I got the cloud special effect working and I'm also working on a sun to put up in the right corner. Tommorrows goal is going to be adding additional layers to the level system so you can jump up on ledges and such, and after that creating and animating the main character. I'll also probably work on fine tuning the shading on the clouds a bit, it seems a little weak still.

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[This message has been edited by Ereon (edited August 09, 2007).]

ENEMY: KILLER BIRD (actually named after a pet parakeet I had once, Killer was a good bird...or...maybe not...)

my texture isn't 100% (as you can see by the grid lines on the body and the untextured beak)

FRIEND: MR BREAD

I'm about 95% done with Mr. Bread here. I just need to adjust a bit on his top corners.

I hope everyone has had as productive as a night as I.

[This message has been edited by mastallama (edited August 10, 2007).]

I hope to show actual in-game screenshots tomorrow.

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Ciao, leo
APOCALYX 3D Engine
http://apocalyx.sourceforge.net

Here's a new screenshot. I'm currently working through game play with my test map.

God Bless!

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BTW, word of recommendation. Don't forget to backup your code. I try backing it up at the end of each coding session. And more often if I code for an extended period.

> I hope everyone has had as productive as a night as I.

I was so wiped out last night. From work, to a dentist appointment, to worship practice. I went to bed at 11:15 PM. I worked maybe 2 hours on the game. I was about to do nothing on it, but I had an idea for a particular level and wanted to get the basic idea coded as a proof of concept. I'm glad I did because it laid the foundation and is allowing me to really think through how I plan to use it.

For what I'm doing, SDL.NET has been really easy and enjoyable to use. Not to mention I really enjoy using C#. I have run into one big issue, where a non-fullscreen game opens in a random location, so sometimes ends up partially off the screen. You end up having to move the screen by hand. I may end up just running the game in fullscreen mode. I think I may be able to use Tao and the native SDL calls to get this working, but this will probably be on the bottom of the list.

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Graphics are looking terrific all! Wow!

BTW, word of recommendation. Don't forget to backup your code. I try backing it up at the end of each coding session. And more often if I code for an extended period.

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Yeah that's always a good idea. I've got my code on a remote SVN server.

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"After three days without programming, life becomes meaningless.'' -- Tao of Programming Book 2

"Oh, bother," said the Borg. "We've assimilated Pooh."

"Socialism works great... if there are no people involved." -- Pastor David Ginter, Union Church of Guatemala.

My Programming and Hacker/Geek related Blog

We're using the parable of the dragnet to make a casual puzzle game.

Here's a screenshot of one of the first playable versions:

And here's a screenshot of one of the most recent versions:

The base framework is functional, but there aren't any levels, menus, win conditions, or sound. It looks pretty, but it doesn't do anywhere near everything it needs to yet.

As my teammate Charlie and I are pretty limited in time, we've focused on keeping everything small and achievable. Even so, we've got a full plate in front of us to finish this thing up by the end of the contest. I'm glad we didn't try to bite off any more.

Keep up the good work, everyone! The games are looking great! I'm really impressed with all of the stuff that people have whipped up in such a short time.

Cheers!

In Christ,
clint

[This message has been edited by HanClinto (edited August 10, 2007).]

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Originally posted by HanClinto:
Well, I wanted to hold off on any gameplay screenshots until about halfway through the contest, so here we are.

We're using the parable of the dragnet to make a casual puzzle game.

Here's a screenshot of one of the first playable versions:

And here's a screenshot of one of the most recent versions:

The base framework is functional, but there aren't any levels, menus, win conditions, or sound. It looks pretty, but it doesn't do anywhere near everything it needs to yet.

As my teammate Charlie and I are pretty limited in time, we've focused on keeping everything small and achievable. Even so, we've got a full plate in front of us to finish this thing up by the end of the contest. I'm glad we didn't try to bite off any more.

Keep up the good work, everyone! The games are looking great! I'm really impressed with all of the stuff that people have whipped up in such a short time.

Cheers!

In Christ,
clint

[This message has been edited by HanClinto (edited August 10, 2007).]

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Those are beautiful!!!!

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Originally posted by renegader_bj:
Quick, someone tell me how to post a screenshot plz

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[img]www.myimagewebsite.com/image.png[/img]

Clint, glad to see you are making a casual game. I am really into casual games. I had thought of doing one, but my concept was something I had already thought out several months ago, so I couldn't use it for the contest.

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Originally posted by renegader_bj:
Quick, someone tell me how to post a screenshot plz

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--clint

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questss(29, 1) = "CCN stands for " questss(29, 2) = "Christian Coders Network " questss(29, 3) = "Cable Collaboration of News " questss(29, 4) = "Constant Contests of Noteworthiness " questss(29, 5) = "Chicken Copied News "

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With a fist to the sky, I bid thee...CODE ON!

(For those curious I've only spent four 4-6-hour days on this game. I took a break after 3 days and finished the 4th tonight). I estimate that I spent only 19 hours working on my project.

I reminded myself of two coding and design philosophies to maximize productivity:

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Get it right the first time.

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"Oh, bother," said the Borg. "We've assimilated Pooh."

"Socialism works great... if there are no people involved." -- Pastor David Ginter, Union Church of Guatemala.

My Programming and Hacker/Geek related Blog

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I'd like to announce:
I'm done with my game!

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I want to try and add a couple mini games and some additional level difficulty. That will be my goal for tonight and tomorrow.

I have taken Thursday off work, so I will be looking at a coding cram session on Thursday too.

I am just slightly under 10,000 lines of code and I am still typing!

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P.S. The Teamspeak server is still open to anyone who wants to come visit for a while. I should be on all day, and I've configured the channels to run smoothly even with dial-up (we tested it with Jestermax's dialup the other night and it ran smooth as silk). The server address is 76.181.150.209:8767 with the server password being Jrulz .

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I would like to say that I am done too!
I am at 95% game play.

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I am just slightly under 10,000 lines of code and I am still typing!

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I'm at 1573. I used 8 Python files and the PGU libraries. The size of source and media total at 6MB.

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"After three days without programming, life becomes meaningless.'' -- Tao of Programming Book 2

"Oh, bother," said the Borg. "We've assimilated Pooh."

"Socialism works great... if there are no people involved." -- Pastor David Ginter, Union Church of Guatemala.

My Programming and Hacker/Geek related Blog

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If you ain't in the forums, you in the againstums :)

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Originally posted by Ereon:
One question. Can we include the tools and source code for the tools we make during the competition for our game? I'm making a level editing tool that I'd like to include so people could make their own levels and patch them into the game.

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Originally posted by CPUFreak91:
I'd like to announce:
I'm done with my game!

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jaw hits the floor.

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Hmmmm, maybe I should try that.
Congrats CPU!!!!
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[This message has been edited by evdude (edited August 11, 2007).]

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Originally posted by samw3:
2334 lines for me as of today.

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White spaces included?

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Originally posted by Calin:
White spaces included?

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Yes that included white space.

Without white space (cat *.cs | grep -v "^\s*$" | wc -l)

I'm now up to: 2704 lines of code.

Currently building out scene transitions and the password manager.

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Originally posted by samw3:
cat *.cs | grep -v "^\s*$" | wc -l

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That spits out 618 when run on my main set of hand-typed game scripts.

--clint

Ereon, I really like the style of your game. I'll be interested to see how it plays.

[This message has been edited by heardtheword (edited August 11, 2007).]

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I just had to tell someone.

That strikes me as absolutely hilarious.

--clint

heardtheword, that looks really cool. I like the shadows.

keep up the good work all!

Well, as for me...

Ronan can now walk around on the levels, complete the level when arriving at the end and dies when he falls in a pit. That kind of lead me on a tangent to pull together the other systems for game over and continue as well as structuring the flow of the game from beginning to end.

He also has a health bar and a action selector now too.

Praise the Lord for the progress!

What's left now is the real meat of the game: enemies, bosses, and attacks. I also still need to code the ending and effects too.

Hmm.. I might tangent and build the effects engine first.

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Just keeping on refining and making better!

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Howdy all! Check out http://art.twobrotherssoftware.com/shs.html, my latest CD.

If you ain't in the forums, you in the againstums :)

After a week of nothing, I get an hour every day now... great, ain't it? Anyway, I'm not allowed to play computer games either(and I assume that would include programming them, something Dad considers sinful, I suppose).

Kinda sad. I did have a prototype working of a little game...
Ah well. Eventually kids like me get to move out and experience life in the real world... without being micro-managed.

Sorry guys.

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On another note I've got some serious problems rearing up. I can make the enemy and character models for my game, but I have no way of UV mapping them. Truespace 3.2 is too old to do anything with. None of its exporters can be loaded in Wings 3D or Lithunwrap. The only option I can see is learning blender in 6 days and somehow magically being able to animate and UV map my models when I know practically nothing about the program and haved disliked every occasion where I've had to use it. This is going to be a rough next couple of days.

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(click here for a larger version http://www.gameace.org/~CCNcontest07/leo/editor_screen.jpg )

As you may remember, I have changed my mind a few days ago and decided to program a puzzle game about "The Lost Sheep".

In practice, the sheperd must bring his sheeps to grass fields in the least time possible avoiding several obstacles and without losing any.
The editor is used to place objects (sheeps, cacti, barriers, wolves etc.) in the level. All the objects follow a specified behavior according to their class: the player gives commands to the sheperd and his dog to drive the sheeps to the grass field.

I think that the level editor is about the 40% of the game... the problem is that now I have only 4 days to complete the other 60%!

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Ciao, leo
APOCALYX 3D Engine
http://apocalyx.sourceforge.net

God Bless!

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Here's a screenshot of what i have for my title screen so far. the trees are from the TGB free demo i believe (so they already give them away for free, unless i'm mistaken...).
Anyway, here she is:

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I don't understand jestermax, i keep hitting spacebar and nothing happens!!!! :-p Nice title screen!!

I was hoping to have 10 levels, but I have had to cut back and will attempt 8. Every two levels cover a different parable and contain their own unique gameplay element. The one I dropped was "faith like a mustard seed" but I realized this isn't one of the parables. No matter, I don't think there is time to complete another gameplay logic.

I currently have all the gameplay logic implemented, I just need to finish creating maps for Levels 6, 7, and 8. Then there are the little things I need to complete like an opening splash screen, redo the high score board, and several more items. I'm starting to get a little nervous now with all the little things still to do.

When exactly does the contest end? Isn't it until Saturday night at midnight Eastern Standard Time (EST)? 9PM for us Pacific Timers. Hopefully, I won't be working right up to the last minute this year.

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Originally posted by ssquared:
When exactly does the contest end? Isn't it until Saturday night at midnight Eastern Standard Time (EST)? 9PM for us Pacific Timers. Hopefully, I won't be working right up to the last minute this year.

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With so many time zones I'm pretty much well going to do the same thing I did last year. When I wake up on Aug 19 I'll post the contest is over and that'll be it.

Working on some bug issues, but other than that the game is playable. My brother has agreed to beta test and I found out that I need some better instructions.

Keep on plugging!

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"Oh, bother," said the Borg. "We've assimilated Pooh."

"Socialism works great... if there are no people involved." -- Pastor David Ginter, Union Church of Guatemala.

My Programming and Hacker/Geek related Blog

I may also have a beta tester, too!

Jestermax, I'm right there with you. I continued to develop my game after last year's contest and am really happy I did. This year's game I also plan to extend with several ideas I had to cut due to time. I have really been learning alot about SDL.NET this time around and feel much more comfortable using it. Although I'm thinking of looking into some other API. SDL.NET is good and easy to use, but is a little slow.

Are any of the judges using Windows Vista? I am developing my game on a Vista box, but when I ran it on another Vista machine, it complains and won't run. Strange. I ran the same exact set of executables on an XP box and it runs just fine.

And do we know the list of judges this year?

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Here's a screenshot of what i have for my title screen so far. the trees are from the TGB free demo i believe (so they already give them away for free, unless i'm mistaken...).

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You are not mistaken Those assets that come with TGB are yours to use however you like.

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Here's my game candinate made with GM:

But im unsure at the time if I have time to finish this.

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I just got a huge job doing a pro website for
this guy, and some of it has to be started now. I'm
getting bogged down fast with it, and I don't know if
I'll have time to complete my game! *Gulp*

We're starting to enter crunch time, and it feels like there is still a fair bit to be implemented. Not insurmountable, but we'll have to prune, and it's definitely a challenge.

Marvin the Robot says:

Renegade_bj: Glad to hear that you got what sounds like an important contract! I'm sorry to hear about the conflict. I'll certainly try to remember to keep you (and all of us) in my prayers as we all struggle to responsibly balance our hobbies amidst the rest of our lives.

In Christ,
clint

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The time for speaking comes rarely, the time for being never departs.
George Macdonald