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They found a cure for animals and want to see it on humans but secularists seem to be against it. Here are some quotes "The technique being developed by American researchers adjusts the hormonal balance in the brains of homosexual rams so that they are more inclined to mate with ewes." "Approximately one ram in 10 prefers to mount other rams rather than mate with ewes, reducing its value to a farmer. Initially, the publicly funded project aimed to improve the productivity of herds." "By varying the hormone levels, mainly by injecting hormones into the brain, they have had “considerable success” in altering the rams’ sexuality, with some previously gay animals becoming attracted to ewes." "He said: “In general, sexuality has been under-studied because of political concerns. People don’t want science looking into what determines sexuality." “It’s a touchy issue. In fact, several studies have shown that people who believe homosexuality is biologically based are less homophobic than people who think that this orientation is acquired.” The truth is a touchy issue it seems, since if you take people away from their delusion they will get mad. lol It's like trying to feed an animal that will bite you. Everyone sins but to embrace a sin as good is even worse. What next saying that mental retardation is ok and good and to not is anti-retardation. You also have society pushing for people to be gay by trying to brainwash people to bombard people with pro gay things. You also have pedophiles having mental issues as well and interesting that gay make up around less than 1% but account for over 20% of pedophilia which some say might be greatly higher. Protestant pastors use to attack gays and condemn them which they did not have the authority to, and now they go to the other extreme side of the pendulum to have some support it. Many of the protestant legislators are punishing for gay marriages as well, but as some countries that offer marriage indicate that it didn’t turn out as great and gays abused it and then marriage for everyone went on a decline. Now you have secularists attacking the institute of marriage and say that people should just fool around only. lol ------------------ |
spade89 Member Posts: 561 From: houston,tx Registered: 11-28-2006 |
did you know that homosexuality was considered a mental disorder until the year 1979,which is the same year they banned teaching of the bible in public schools, and look where it led them to ,homosexuality,pedophilia,gangs,drugs my point is they knew it was a disease long ago,as the matter of fact i read in this real old pshychology book that was written before 1979 that they considered masturbating against another person's foot use to be considered a serious disorder,when you think about it ,it is the stupidest thing to say that homosexuals are not mentaly disturbed.i am no scientist but as far as i know homosexuality is not something you are born with it is a choice you make .and as far as i know the bible is the only cure to date.even if they find a cure for it,do you really think anyone is going to use it? they have to admit it as a disease first to be cured. think back to 1979,what if they didn't ban teaching of the bible in public schools,and what if they still considered homosexuality as a disease?do you think we would be living in this kind of world today,where teachers at school teach you evolution and homosexuality,and tell you there is no god and homosexuality is acceptable,i see 6th graders getting pregnant and going to school,the viewing of pornography is becoming a social standard if you are normal then you watch porn,if you are normal you have to have sex before marriage and before you are 18,to be normal you have to be a drinker,a drug taker,or a smoker. it is a silly and very very sad world we are living in today,i always think back to 1979 and think what if they still taught the bible at school,and what if homosexuality and transsexuality were still considered the disease they are,if you ask me the real sick people are the people accepting the disease as a normality,if they get to accept homosexuality as a disease in the first place then the rest is just a piece of cake. ------------------ |
Jari Member Posts: 1471 From: Helsinki, Finland Registered: 03-11-2005 |
One person once said that homesexuality is natural because it is seen in nature in the animals. But she did not know that God had made man above the animals different from the animals. And what God has set should not been altered in anyway and why change anything that is perfect. ------------------ [VoHW] (Help needed) [Blog] - Truedisciple (mp3) |
Calin Member Posts: 358 From: Moldova Registered: 12-04-2006 |
We shouldn't jump on this "mental disorder" trend as Christians. This is a moral issue not scientific. The Bible says homosexuality is a sin not a mental illness. It's safest to stick with the Bible terminology. |
kenman Member Posts: 518 From: Janesville WI Registered: 08-31-2006 |
Calin is right, sin is sin is sin. Unfortunately Warsong the study you have quoted is not scientifically accurate. Animals are not sexualy biased. Animals are not homosexual or heterosexual because they cannot have a mind to SIN. |
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I agree, but if I am using their argument to show how wrong they are. Ps. It's not my fault that without some key protestants help it would have not been supported this much. Christ said to be united but with a division like that sect no wonder it is used and abused so much, and it is not a stable ally for Christianity. It is still being used for many other bad things. I agree that catholics priests and nuns are rampant with homosexuals and use to be a safe haven for them. All they do is move them around but i guess they do not have enough people to fill the space of priests since people want to get married and they changed what the original church did to let regular priests get married. Without them homosexuality would have not been encourages in society. [This message has been edited by warsong (edited January 04, 2007).] |
ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
haha. interesting. definitely something to be looked into. but, political correctness activists will seek to stifle research. anyhow. I generally held that it homosexuality came through child development years, but this is something to look at.
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GUMP Member Posts: 1335 From: Melbourne, FL USA Registered: 11-09-2002 |
I was expecting this to happen eventually. The identification of these animals as "gay" is pure political correctness. Lower lifeforms have to have a built-in mechanism to guide them after all and it's not unexpected for it to break down. What is questionable is that this observation in rams is automatically extended to include humans. As many members of Exodus International can attest people have a choice in the matter. |
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spade89 Member Posts: 561 From: houston,tx Registered: 11-28-2006 |
let's not confuse,consciousnes with sanity, when you are guilty of a sin all you have to be is consciience(con-with,science-knowlege),it doesn't matter whether you are sane or not(unless you were born insane)people become insane because they don't follow their creator,i never heard of a devout true christian losing his mind, and yes the only real cure is christ,through only his blood can they be cured of this sin. but if the very idea of researching into their problem by scientists who in the first place said it was normal to be gay makes them rethink their sin ,then who knows the next thing you know gay people are going to church to confess their sins. ------------------------------------------------------
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NetCog Member Posts: 149 From: Registered: 06-15-2006 |
See what warsong seems to keep missing is that the Protestant "group" is not organized and regulated like the Catholic and Orthodox churches. In fact, you can't lump "Protestant" and "churches" together as if they are a single unit. The closest you can get it is Lutheran, Baptist, Episcopal, Methodist, a few others, and Independents. And the Independents are less "grouped" than the rest. That is, of course, ignoring the inter-denominational divisions, for example, within the Lutheran and Baptist churches. "Prominent" leaders of any of the protestant denominations are not "prominent" like one might consider a Catholic priest or the Pope. Thus anything approaching the pointing of fingers as representations is flawed. aka...don't do it, it means nothing. Just because a bishop or deacon of a Baptist spin-off or one of the main Episcopal branches says something, in no way means the rest of the mass which makes up "Protestant-ism" agrees. We protestants, by large, do not subscribe to leadership/church-infallibility the way (truly many/most) Catholic and Orthodox membership does.
p.s. It does not matter whether the homosexual trend in a person is a mental/chemical imbalance or simply a choice made and action undertaken. The act (or thought? vis-a-vis lust?) of a homosexual is what is the sin. Promiscuity, adultery, homosexuality, lying, theft, suicidal depression or murderous rage, superiority complex and corresponding arrogence, out of control shopping, and many more are sins that can be lumped together with "I couldn't help myself" and "I knew exactly what I was doing and chose to do it". Neither status of control matters, except that it's part of the unique package that you have on your plate for consideration between you and God. |
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ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
netcog makes some good points. biology wouldn't work as a good excuse if I was caught with my pants down in the women's locker room (softball or waterpolo, preferably). some people have greater weakness in areas than other, and I believe God will judge them accordingly. pretty nice it's not our job to judge people, eh? ------------------ [This message has been edited by ArchAngel (edited January 08, 2007).] |
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spade89 Member Posts: 561 From: houston,tx Registered: 11-28-2006 |
that reminds of this: Luke 6:37 Judge not , and you will not be judged; do not condemn and pronounce guilty, and you will not be condemned and pronounced guilty; acquit and forgive and release , and you will be acquitted and forgiven and released. as archangel said , it's not up to us to judge them,we should be worrying about our own trespasses against god,not others. the big responsibility we have towards them is to preach them the gospel, if they taught their actions were justifiable they wouldn't try to stop researches into their actions, just like the way they denie the word of the bible and hate christians ,they are afraid of facing judgement for their actions that is why they try to avoid and even exterminate christianity, and they call us haters. what i am trying to say is as far as preaching to them goes it's like pouring water on a rock no point to it,they will listen but they won't hear ,only god has power on sinners,only his love can break their hatred and sin,and as christians we should do what christ did tell them the truth when we can only the words in the bible can cure them ,no human or medicine can cure you of sin.some medicines may stop their body from commiting sins but their mind and soul will keep on sinng unless they become believers in christ, only through his blood is forgiveness. most sinners are like drug addicts ,addicted to their sin, whatever comes against their sin comes against them. they are basically slaves of satan, and it's up to us to try to free them(whether we succeed or not depends on them because they have free will, to accept or reject christ.) ------------------ |
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NetCog Member Posts: 149 From: Registered: 06-15-2006 |
Be wary in the use and focus of "freeing sinners from their sin." I would be so cautious in its use as to not use it at all. Rather "present Christ" in your actions and presence, and if opportunity arises, with word. *Unless someone has scriptural reference to the contrary. |
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spade89 Member Posts: 561 From: houston,tx Registered: 11-28-2006 |
netcog, what i am trying to say is we all were sinners at some time or another and now we are saved, and we have the knowlege and opportunity to save other sinners too. we were slaves of the world and we are free now,we can do the same to other people. when i mean freeing sinners i mean freeing them from the blindness they have ofcourse as jesus said we shouldn't be trying to clear someones eyes while se have a rock inside ours, if we know how to free a sinner from himself then we should if we are too selfish to do it then that means we weren't saved in the first place , if a person is truly born again then his purpose is god's purpose,and god wants sinners to be freed from themselves, remember that jesus told us to go and preach the gospel. ------------------ |