General Discussions

My New computer – InsanePoet

InsanePoet

Member

Posts: 638
From: Vermont, USA
Registered: 03-12-2003
For about $850 I built my own machine.

Case: ATX Antec - 350w power, 3 5.25 drives, 2 3.5 drives
Motherboard: Abit NF7-S - integtrated sound, integrated ethernet adapter, SATA compatable.
CDRW - Lite-on 52x
DVD Lite-on 16x
Floppy - sony
Memory Corsair 512 mb PC333 low latency
HD: Western Digital 'Special Edition' ATA 80 GB
Video: Ati Raedon 9600 XT 128 MB
Monitor: Nec/Mitsubitchi 17" CRT Multisync FE770
CPU: AMD Athelon XP 2500+ 'Barton'
(also includes logitec keyboard and microsoft optical wheel mouse).

Everything is a slick black color... including the mouse monitor and keyboard.
I have Altec Lansing speakers... which are also black.

I have yet to buy an OS... which is funny.. considering windows xp is more expensive than any of my components.
I thought about going linux, but it's a real pain to set up and I don't really want it.

Built it... took me 2 hours, went without a problem.

Not that anyone cares... but i'm showing off my fairly modest machine. Buying a real expensive computer is poor stewardship IMHO.

I really don't have a problem with my current computer.
My 4 year old compaq... it's just that it's becoming incompadable with newer software... mainly due to XP.

------------------
"I find myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world!"
-C. S. Lewis


IRISH PIRATES

[This message has been edited by InsanePoet (edited December 13, 2003).]

zookey

Member

Posts: 1902
From: Great Falls, Montana, USA
Registered: 04-28-2002
quote:
Originally posted by InsanePoet:

Buying a real expensive computer is poor stewardship IMHO.

huh?

------------------
Ignorance is bad, if you have it you will not have a good time.

[This message has been edited by zookey (edited December 13, 2003).]

AmazingJas

Member

Posts: 437
From: Sydney, NSW, AUSTRALIA
Registered: 04-03-2003
That looks like a good gaming rig to me I've got very similar components, the ATI 8600 is a great little card (though it does have some compatibility issues with some popular chipset/motherboards).

My only comment/concern is, and I don't like to make generalisations, but I've had a couple of Mitsubishi monitors (17/19 inch) and they have been pretty lousy and manufacturer support was equally unimpressive. I hope yours is of a higher quality and you don't have any probs.
Now go and play some Battlefield 1942 esert Combat. That's an order!!

InsanePoet

Member

Posts: 638
From: Vermont, USA
Registered: 03-12-2003
I don't know.... i've seen nec/mitsubitchi monitors and they seem to be pretty good.

------------------
"I find myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world!"
-C. S. Lewis


IRISH PIRATES

D-SIPL

Moderator

Posts: 1345
From: Maesteg, Wales
Registered: 07-21-2001
quote:
I thought about going linux, but it's a real pain to set up and I don't really want it.

Linux is easy to install, and there is plenty of support forums out there that will help with any problems. You just have to pick your distro wisely.

The best i think is Gentoo, but it's not for the faint hearted to do a customised install, as you have to compile everything and that can take a couple of days, but it is the most flexible distribution out there as you only install the programs you need. And to update all the software on your PC using Gentoo is easy... you type "emerge sync", and that will update everything.

Red Hat is ok, i personally hate there file system. But it's easy enough to setup, just a bit bloated with programs i would never use. But then again, it comes with just about everything you would ever need, unlike windows.

But out of all of those i would choose Slackware. It's easy to install, the packages you install is easily configurable, so you only install what you need. It would take you about 30 minutes to install everything.

Anyways, sorry about that. I just don't like people generalising Linux without giving it a go.

--D-SIPL

------------------
If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that suggests you tried

InsanePoet

Member

Posts: 638
From: Vermont, USA
Registered: 03-12-2003
Well the main reason is that I honestly don't want linux... If I tru\ly wanted it I would get it, regardless of the difficultly.

------------------
"I find myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world!"
-C. S. Lewis


IRISH PIRATES

CobraA1

Member

Posts: 926
From: MN
Registered: 02-19-2001
Have you ever tried Linux? If you haven't, maybe you can just give it a spin - you can always delete it if you don't like it. The latest distributions are much, much easier to install than a couple of years ago.

Yeah Windows XP is the hardest part. See if you or somebody you know can get it at a student discount. I recommend getting the pro version - the home version has some limitations I don't like, especially when it comes to networking. I've got Windows XP Pro on my computer (at a student discount, of course, since I'm a college student ), and after finals is over, I plan on re-installing Linux to see if the latest versions have better support for my computer setup.

------------------
There are only 10 types of people - those who understand binary, and those who don't.
Switch Mayhem now available! Get it here
Codename: Roler - Planning, writing GFX basecode.

InsanePoet

Member

Posts: 638
From: Vermont, USA
Registered: 03-12-2003
yeah... i'm going to get pro of course.

------------------
"I find myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world!"
-C. S. Lewis


IRISH PIRATES

pillaroftruth

Member

Posts: 28
From: North Hollywood, CA, USA
Registered: 08-30-2003
SuSe Linux has the easiest installation I have seen so far. It is very user friendly. I am getting several laptops this month and I am going to run Lycoris and SuSe on them.. Linux is far better than Windows.

------------------
Function God_hates_Laziness()
{
If (Christian==Lazy) Then
{
Printf("Proverbs 19:15 'The shiftless man goes hungry'")
Printf("Proverbs 15:19 'The way of the sluggard is blocked with thorns'")
Return Hunger
else
Return GodsWill
}
}

D-SIPL

Moderator

Posts: 1345
From: Maesteg, Wales
Registered: 07-21-2001
quote:
Originally posted by CobraA1:
Have you ever tried Linux? If you haven't, maybe you can just give it a spin - you can always delete it if you don't like it. The latest distributions are much, much easier to install than a couple of years ago.

Yeah Windows XP is the hardest part. See if you or somebody you know can get it at a student discount. I recommend getting the pro version - the home version has some limitations I don't like, especially when it comes to networking. I've got Windows XP Pro on my computer (at a student discount, of course, since I'm a college student ), and after finals is over, I plan on re-installing Linux to see if the latest versions have better support for my computer setup.



The 2.6 kernel will have much better support for the latest hardware. The final release shouldn't be too far away. And then you can free yourself from the limitations and standards set by windows .

--D-SIPL

------------------
If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that suggests you tried

BKewl

Member

Posts: 144
From: St. Charles, MO, USA
Registered: 07-10-2002
Still, the main problem with Linux is that it doesn't run most of the mainstream software out there. Sure, there are a few (like 3 or so) games that specifically run on it, but beyond that, you're out of luck in the gaming arena. If you don't game, it's a bit better, since it has a lot of good productivity/development apps that rival Windows stuff(OpenOffice which is so close to MSOffice it's scary). The moral of this story is that while there is some good equivalent software for Linux, gamers just aren't gonna be happy at this point.

Anyway, I heard from my boss at work that apparently after 2004 all the video cards will be completely restructured architecturally (from the ground up even?). So radical changes in technology in 2005 my friends (maybe you should hold of on purchasing a card in 2004 ).

bennythebear

Member

Posts: 1225
From: kentucky,usa
Registered: 12-13-2003
sounds like you got a pretty sweet computer. i'd go with windows xp home, of course it seems to be friendlier with games(than pro), which is the only reason i would get a machine like that, especially that video card. i've messed around with linux but i don't know enough about it, and i've been using windows for so long(from the age of 11 to now, i'm almost 19) i've gotten familar with it, and i'm too lazy and uninterested in linux to learn about it. but i'll prob'ly learn about it simply for the field i'm going into, network administration.
CobraA1

Member

Posts: 926
From: MN
Registered: 02-19-2001
quote:

The 2.6 kernel will have much better support for the latest hardware. The final release shouldn't be too far away. And then you can free yourself from the limitations and standards set by windows .

It's not a new machine . Actually, Linux supports it OK, it just wasn't 100%. It's just that it's one of those manufacturers that likes to use proprietary components in their machines.

quote:
Originally posted by BKewl:
Still, the main problem with Linux is that it doesn't run most of the mainstream software out there. Sure, there are a few (like 3 or so) games that specifically run on it, but beyond that, you're out of luck in the gaming arena. If you don't game, it's a bit better, since it has a lot of good productivity/development apps that rival Windows stuff(OpenOffice which is so close to MSOffice it's scary). The moral of this story is that while there is some good equivalent software for Linux, gamers just aren't gonna be happy at this point.

SDL and OpenGL/Mesa are available, more programmers just have to take advantage of them. It's a matter of convincing game writers to use them instead of DirectX, which, unfortunately, is Windows-only.

------------------
There are only 10 types of people - those who understand binary, and those who don't.
Switch Mayhem now available! Get it here
Codename: Roler - Planning, writing GFX basecode.

BKewl

Member

Posts: 144
From: St. Charles, MO, USA
Registered: 07-10-2002
quote:
Originally posted by CobraA1:
SDL and OpenGL/Mesa are available, more programmers just have to take advantage of them. It's a matter of convincing game writers to use them instead of DirectX, which, unfortunately, is Windows-only.


Okay, I couldn't resist: that is no small matter . Reading through my post again, I was unclear; sorry about that. Linux has the capability to run games using OpenGL, but very few professional games have actually taken advantage of that (I think I can count them all with one hand). Too bad Loki's not still around :-/

CobraA1

Member

Posts: 926
From: MN
Registered: 02-19-2001
Yeah, convincing them's no small task. DirectX has deep roots in the gaming world.

------------------
There are only 10 types of people - those who understand binary, and those who don't.
Switch Mayhem now available! Get it here
Codename: Roler - Planning, writing GFX basecode.

D-SIPL

Moderator

Posts: 1345
From: Maesteg, Wales
Registered: 07-21-2001
quote:
Originally posted by BKewl:
Okay, I couldn't resist: that is no small matter . Reading through my post again, I was unclear; sorry about that. Linux has the capability to run games using OpenGL, but very few professional games have actually taken advantage of that (I think I can count them all with one hand). Too bad Loki's not still around :-/


You can run most Windows games using WineX in Linux.

And also there are more and more developers that are starting to look at Linux, as it is becoming more and more usable as a desktop pc.

I agree about Loki shutting down, that was lame.

--D-SIPL

------------------
If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that suggests you tried

AmazingJas

Member

Posts: 437
From: Sydney, NSW, AUSTRALIA
Registered: 04-03-2003
quote:
Originally posted by CobraA1:
See if you or somebody you know can get it at a student discount.


naughty naughty...unless you yourself are a student...

CobraA1

Member

Posts: 926
From: MN
Registered: 02-19-2001
Got Windows XP myself. I'm a student as Kansas State University.

Got sick of those OEM disks that wipe your harddrive .

------------------
There are only 10 types of people - those who understand binary, and those who don't.
Switch Mayhem now available! Get it here
Codename: Roler - Planning, writing GFX basecode.

dream forger

Junior Member

Posts: 3
From: USA
Registered: 12-16-2003
If you are going to get Windows XP, I'd suggest Fry's Electronics if you have one in your area. I was able to get an OEM version of XP for $100 with a small stick of memory (the deal comes when you buy any hardware) OEM just means that you don't have a big fat box and manual just the XP software... So my suggestion would be to find the cheapest software at Fry's (or any electronic store that has the same deal) and buy the cheapest hardware component. Have fun with your new computer and God Bless.

------------------
"Knowledge is a double sided sword, one side is of good, the other of evil. May I wield it wisely for God and do good with its edge." - Dream Forger

ArchAngel

Member

Posts: 3450
From: SV, CA, USA
Registered: 01-29-2002
fry's is pretty cool.
like their buildings too (you'll know what I'm talking about if you been to one)
however, I don't think there are any in england.. or europe...
it's mainly based in CA, with some other stores in some states.

------------------

D-SIPL

Moderator

Posts: 1345
From: Maesteg, Wales
Registered: 07-21-2001
quote:
Originally posted by ArchAngel:
fry's is pretty cool.
like their buildings too (you'll know what I'm talking about if you been to one)
however, I don't think there are any in england.. or europe...
it's mainly based in CA, with some other stores in some states.


I think our equivalent store is called Maplins.

--D-SIPL

------------------
If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that suggests you tried