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CobraA1

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From: MN
Registered: 02-19-2001
I've been going around, trying to figure out how to srtart a business so I can sell games for a profit - but I'm not quite understanding how it all works in Kansas.

AFAIK, all I need for a sole proprietership is to start selling stuff. Unfortunately, there's a name issue - Kansas doesn't require registering names, but I want a name, but I can't seem to find the place to register it at :\.

Anybody here with some business experience? Starting a sole proprietership seems a little too simple. Am I missing something?

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TheManFromGanymede
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From: Boulder, CO
Registered: 06-21-2003
Try looking at http://www.businesstown.com . It has a variety of useful information and advice including stuff on getting started. At the very least, it could probably tell you where to go for further information.

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D-SIPL

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From: Maesteg, Wales
Registered: 07-21-2001
I'm not sure about US or Kansas laws at all. But in the UK we can be a sole proprieter and we only have to let the Inland Revenue know, so that they can tax us occordinaly. We also have to do a tax self assesment each year.

But you can trade as whatever name you want, but it doesn't have the same credibilty as a ltd or plc company. Being a sole propieter also makes it harder to get a credible merchant account to be able to trade online. World Pay will help out here, but this comes with it's price.

Hope you find this helpful.

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CobraA1

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From: MN
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If I can't figure out where to do a "fictitious name filing", I'll have to create a bank account under my own name, which means "CobraA1 Software" will probably become "Jeremiah's Software" or "Mossware" (my last name is Moss), or something like that . . .

I'm going to try to email Kansas Business Center to see if I can get more information. They've got "Name Reservation", but I dont know if it's the same thing as "Fictitious name filing".

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CobraA1

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OK, did a bit more research - THIS pisses me off . . .

http://www.kssos.org/resources/resources_faq_business.html

Kansas does NOT have DBA or fictitious name filing! No wonder I'm having trouble finding it.

US Bank owes me an explanation now.

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graceworks
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From: Corvallis, Oregon, USA
Registered: 03-03-2001
Hey,

Some useful resources:

http://sba.gov/ - for small businesses

http://www.score.org/ - a collection of retired business people that you can ask free advice of

May God bless your business.
Tim

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CobraA1

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Thanks

Got that business account - I just went under my name, which can be done for a sole proprietership. I figure that "name reservation" is the same thing, except you have to pay every 3 months . In any case, just having it under my own name is fine.

Now I await PayPal verification . . .

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CobraA1

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Now selling my first product .

http://www.cobraa1.com/products.html

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ArchAngel

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From: SV, CA, USA
Registered: 01-29-2002
fa shizzle!

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graceworks
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From: Corvallis, Oregon, USA
Registered: 03-03-2001
Hey,

Add some screenshots or something - description of game. You need to entice people to download and run the demo.

-Tim

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CobraA1

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From: MN
Registered: 02-19-2001
OK, I've added a screenshot.

That, and figure out sales taxes, as well as whether to sell it or just give it out as freeware - after all, it's just a simple puzzle game.

A few people on the GameMaker forums didn't like the fact that I was actually trying to sell it.

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[This message has been edited by CobraA1 (edited August 08, 2003).]

ArchAngel

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hmmmm... well, I don't know the statistics, but I would guess freeware would travel along further better than a selling game (with the exception of major line games, etc.) almost use it as an advertisement for bigger stuff.. getting a name, etc.

I personally would probably go freeware.. and sell the bigger games.
but that's me.

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CobraA1

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From: MN
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I think the consensus is give it away as freeware. I guess I'll do that, then.

I had everything ready to go - a small business bank account, PayPal, PayLoadz, etc. I even had it available to sell for a few hours!

Oh well, I guess I'll make something sellable . . . I hope someday . . .

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ArchAngel

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cool... if you want, I got a decent list of sites to submit games too... if you ever wanted.

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